From theomarkettos@letterbox.com Tue Apr  7 04:30:14 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: theomarkettos@letterbox.com (Theo Markettos)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical,comp.arch.embedded,comp.home.automation,sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.misc
Subject: RFD: comp.arch.home-designed moderated
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <891941015.20601@isc.org>
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Archive-Name: comp.arch.home-designed
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:23:35 GMT
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
               moderated group comp.arch.home-designed

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
world-wide moderated Usenet newsgroup comp.arch.home-designed.
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Procedural details are below.

Newsgroup line:
comp.arch.home-designed	Homebrew digital electronics design. (Moderated)

RATIONALE: comp.arch.home-designed

The topic of designing computers and peripheral devices at home is
discussed on the newsgroup alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt. While there
is a great deal of interest in this topic, many people avoid the
above newsgroup due to the fact that it is not moderated, and due to
similar terminology, the newsgroup gets flooded with off topic IBM
PC clone assembly questions. Measures taken to alleviate this
problem have failed to eliminate the off topic noise. It is
therefore proposed that a moderated forum be created, which will
allow the topic to be discussed in a noise free environment.

CHARTER: comp.arch.home-designed

A moderated forum to exchange ideas, techniques, problems,
solutions, and other information concerning the hobby of
electronics design and construction, specifically related to
digital machines and their peripherals.

Commercial advertisements (except when non-repetitive and
directly relevant to the topic of the group) are expressly
forbidden; it is up to the moderation group to make individual
exceptions.

Posting of binaries or other non-text content is not allowed;
authors should upload this data to an FTP or WWW site and
instead post a pointer to that site. An exception is made for
ASCII schematics.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.arch.home-designed

Moderation group alias:     <cahdmoder@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl>
Bot-master: Jan-Derk Bakker <cahdbot@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl>

Daily moderators:
Moderator: Jan-Derk Bakker <achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl>
Moderator: Ales Hvezda     <ahvezda@ll.mit.edu>
Moderator: Ian Stirling    <achh@mauve.demon.co.uk>

Moderation group:
Moderator: Jan-Derk Bakker <achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl>
Moderator: Randy Gardner   <randyg@slip.net>
Moderator: Darren Guiden   <mod-panel@nitebeat.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Leon Heller     <leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Ales Hvezda     <ahvezda@ll.mit.edu>
Moderator: Theo Markettos  <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Moderator: Mark Sokos      <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Moderator: Ian Stirling    <achh@mauve.demon.co.uk>

A 'bot moderator will be used, which will reject articles by
authors who have not read the posting guidelines. Articles rejected
by the 'bot will be forwarded to a group of three daily moderators
for review. These daily moderators will be appointed by a
moderation group of at least eight and at most twelve members who
will decide on moderation policy in general and the workings of the
'bot in particular. Moderation will follow the scheme outlined
below:

The 'bot:

- auto-approves articles that match all of these:
  - known author
    OR keyword/phrase in article
    OR reply to approved article to the same set of newsgroups
  - article with no binary content
  - plain text, without markup encoding
- mails notification of non-approval to original authors,
  without an attempt to circumvent spamblocks
  - notification message explains moderation system,
    and points poster to relevant posting guidelines
- sends non-approved articles to the daily moderators
- uploads non-approved articles to a WWW site, and
  regularly posts a pointer to them
- scans for forged approvals and cancels


The daily moderators:
- individually check articles the 'bot rejected;
  - if at least one of the daily moderators think the
    article is on-topic, it gets posted
  - if it is reposted, the original author is notified
- in extreme cases cancel articles unanimously decided
  to be off-topic

The moderation group:
- appoints the daily moderators
- deals with group abuse that's not caught by the 'bot
  - it has the power to bar persistent abusers by
    unanimous decision for a period of up to
    30 days at a time
- deals with long-term moderation policy
- is obliged to post details of all moderation group
  decisions to the newsgroup
- if a moderation group member does not express an opinion
  on a matter, then their silence shall not be taken as
  supporting either side of a decision

Moderators of news.announce.newgroups and successor groups are
allowed blanket crossposting at their discretion.

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this
phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed
newsgroup should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period
will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the
first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups),
after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote
taker if the discussion warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote
until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and
"How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to
these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have
any questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
  alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt, alt.engineering.electrical,
  comp.arch.embedded, comp.home.automation,
  sci.electronics.design, sci.electronics.misc

and the following mailing lists:

  piclist@mitvma.mit.edu (pic microcontroller discussion list)
      subscribe via: listserv@mitvma.mit.edu
  hotwired@gu.uwa.edu.au (homebuilt processor discussion)
      subscribe via: hotwired-request@gu.uwa.edu.au

After the RFD has been officially posted to news.announce.newgroups
it will be reposted to:

  alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned


Proponent: Mark Sokos     <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Proponent: Theo Markettos <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Mentor:    Simon Lyall    <simon@darkmere.gen.nz>

From theomarkettos@letterbox.com Mon May  4 19:15:12 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Theo Markettos <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical,comp.arch.embedded,comp.home.automation,sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.misc
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.arch.hobbyist moderated
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <894334463.29248@isc.org>
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Archive-Name: comp.arch.hobbyist
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 02:14:24 GMT
Lines: 171
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10027 news.groups:281473 comp.arch.embedded:22535 comp.home.automation:34017 sci.electronics.design:47917 sci.electronics.misc:28453

                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                  moderated group comp.arch.hobbyist

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
world-wide moderated Usenet newsgroup comp.arch.hobbyist.
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Procedural details are below.

CHANGES from previous RFD:

Changed name from comp.arch.home-designed to comp.arch.hobbyist.
Removed statement about moderators cancellation of posts.
Modified charter and moderation policy with respect to binary posting.

Newsgroup line:
comp.arch.hobbyist	Homebrew digital electronics design. (Moderated)

RATIONALE: comp.arch.hobbyist

The topic of designing computers and peripheral devices at home is
discussed on the newsgroup alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt. While there is
a great deal of interest in this topic, many people avoid the above
newsgroup due to the fact that it is not moderated, and due to similar
terminology, the newsgroup gets flooded with off topic IBM PC clone
assembly questions. Measures taken to alleviate this problem have
failed to eliminate the off topic noise. It is therefore proposed that
a moderated forum be created, which will allow the topic to be
discussed in a noise free environment.

CHARTER: comp.arch.hobbyist

A moderated forum to exchange ideas, techniques, problems, solutions,
and other information concerning the hobby of electronics design and
construction, specifically related to digital machines and their
peripherals.

Commercial advertisements (except when non-repetitive and directly
relevant to the topic of the group) are expressly forbidden; it is up
to the moderation group to make individual exceptions.

Binary postings in this group are unwelcome.  No postings containing
10K or more of binary content will be accepted.  Postings containing
less than 10K of binary content should only be used where no other
reasonable method is available to convey the information they contain.
All postings containing binary content of more than 10 lines or 300
bytes, whichever is the smaller, shall be forwarded to the daily
moderators for inspection in the same manner as articles from unknown
authors.

Posters wishing to post binaries that do not fit the above criteria
should upload this data to an FTP or WWW site and instead post a
pointer to that site.  The binary regulations do not apply to the
posting of ASCII schematics.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.arch.hobbyist

Moderation group alias:     <cahdmoder@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl>
Bot-master: Jan-Derk Bakker <cahdbot@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl>

Daily moderators:
Moderator: Jan-Derk Bakker <achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl>
Moderator: Ales Hvezda     <ahvezda@ll.mit.edu>
Moderator: Ian Stirling    <cah@mauve.demon.co.uk>

Moderation group:
Moderator: Jan-Derk Bakker <achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl>
Moderator: Randy Gardner   <randyg@slip.net>
Moderator: Darren Guiden   <mod-panel@nitebeat.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Leon Heller     <leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Ales Hvezda     <ahvezda@ll.mit.edu>
Moderator: Theo Markettos  <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Moderator: Mark Sokos      <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Moderator: Ian Stirling    <cah@mauve.demon.co.uk>

A 'bot moderator will be used, which will reject articles by authors
who have not read the posting guidelines. Articles rejected by the
'bot will be forwarded to a group of three daily moderators for
review. These daily moderators will be appointed by a moderation group
of at least eight and at most twelve members who will decide on
moderation policy in general and the workings of the 'bot in
particular. Moderation will follow the scheme outlined below:

The 'bot:

- auto-approves articles that match all of these:
  - known author
    OR keyword/phrase in article
    OR reply to approved article to the same set of newsgroups
  - article with less than 300 bytes or 10 lines of binary
    content, whichever is the smaller
  - plain text, without markup encoding
- mails notification of non-approval to original authors,
  without an attempt to circumvent spamblocks
  - notification message explains moderation system,
    and points poster to relevant posting guidelines
- sends non-approved articles to the daily moderators
- uploads non-approved articles to a WWW site, and
  regularly posts a pointer to them
- scans for forged approvals and cancels


The daily moderators:
- individually check articles the 'bot rejected;
  - if at least one of the daily moderators think the
    article is on-topic, it gets posted
  - if it is reposted, the original author is notified

The moderation group:
- appoints the daily moderators
- deals with group abuse that's not caught by the 'bot
  - it has the power to bar persistent abusers by
    unanimous decision for a period of up to
    30 days at a time
- deals with long-term moderation policy
- is obliged to post details of all moderation group
  decisions to the newsgroup
- if a moderation group member does not express an opinion
  on a matter, then their silence shall not be taken as
  supporting either side of a decision

Moderators of news.announce.newgroups and successor groups are allowed
blanket crossposting at their discretion.

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this
phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed
newsgroup should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period
will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the
first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups),
after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote
taker if the discussion warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote
until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and
"How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to
these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have
any questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
  alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt, alt.engineering.electrical,
  comp.arch.embedded, comp.home.automation,
  sci.electronics.design, sci.electronics.misc

and the following mailing lists:

  piclist@mitvma.mit.edu (pic microcontroller discussion list)
      subscribe via: listserv@mitvma.mit.edu
  hotwired@gu.uwa.edu.au (homebuilt processor discussion)
      subscribe via: hotwired-request@gu.uwa.edu.au

After the RFD has been officially posted to news.announce.newgroups
it will be reposted to:

  alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned


Proponent: Mark Sokos     <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Proponent: Theo Markettos <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Mentor:    Simon Lyall    <simon@darkmere.gen.nz>

From theomarkettos@letterbox.com Sun May 17 17:15:08 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: theomarkettos@letterbox.com (Theo Markettos)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical,comp.arch.embedded,comp.home.automation,sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.misc
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.arch.hobbyist moderated
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <895450421.19183@isc.org>
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Archive-Name: comp.arch.hobbyist
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 00:13:42 GMT
Lines: 174
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10090 news.groups:283563 comp.arch.embedded:23209 comp.home.automation:34554 sci.electronics.design:49046 sci.electronics.misc:29032

                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                  moderated group comp.arch.hobbyist

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
world-wide moderated Usenet newsgroup comp.arch.hobbyist.
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Procedural details are below.

CHANGES from previous RFD:

Changed name from comp.arch.home-designed to comp.arch.hobbyist.
Removed statement about moderators cancellation of posts.
Modified charter and moderation policy with respect to binary posting.

This is a repost, as the previous posting of this second RFD was
maliciously cancelled.  I'd be grateful if you could update the posting
date in the RFD database as well, becuase as far as most people were
concerned the first post of it never got out.

Newsgroup line:
comp.arch.hobbyist	Homebrew digital electronics design. (Moderated)

RATIONALE: comp.arch.hobbyist

The topic of designing computers and peripheral devices at home is
discussed on the newsgroup alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt. While there is
a great deal of interest in this topic, many people avoid the above
newsgroup due to the fact that it is not moderated, and due to similar
terminology, the newsgroup gets flooded with off topic IBM PC clone
assembly questions. Measures taken to alleviate this problem have
failed to eliminate the off topic noise. It is therefore proposed that
a moderated forum be created, which will allow the topic to be
discussed in a noise free environment.

CHARTER: comp.arch.hobbyist

A moderated forum to exchange ideas, techniques, problems, solutions,
and other information concerning the hobby of electronics design and
construction, specifically related to digital machines and their
peripherals.

Commercial advertisements (except when non-repetitive and directly
relevant to the topic of the group) are expressly forbidden; it is up
to the moderation group to make individual exceptions.

Binary postings in this group are unwelcome.  No postings containing
10K or more of binary content will be accepted.  Postings containing
less than 10K of binary content should only be used where no other
reasonable method is available to convey the information they contain.
All postings containing binary content of more than 10 lines or 300
bytes, whichever is the smaller, shall be forwarded to the daily
moderators for inspection in the same manner as articles from unknown
authors.

Posters wishing to post binaries that do not fit the above criteria
should upload this data to an FTP or WWW site and instead post a
pointer to that site.  The binary regulations do not apply to the
posting of ASCII schematics.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.arch.hobbyist

Moderation group alias:     <cahdmoder@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl>
Bot-master: Jan-Derk Bakker <cahdbot@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl>

Daily moderators:
Moderator: Jan-Derk Bakker <achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl>
Moderator: Ales Hvezda     <ahvezda@ll.mit.edu>
Moderator: Ian Stirling    <cah@mauve.demon.co.uk>

Moderation group:
Moderator: Jan-Derk Bakker <achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl>
Moderator: Randy Gardner   <randyg@slip.net>
Moderator: Darren Guiden   <mod-panel@nitebeat.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Leon Heller     <leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Ales Hvezda     <ahvezda@ll.mit.edu>
Moderator: Theo Markettos  <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Moderator: Mark Sokos      <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Moderator: Ian Stirling    <cah@mauve.demon.co.uk>

A 'bot moderator will be used, which will reject articles by authors
who have not read the posting guidelines. Articles rejected by the
'bot will be forwarded to a group of three daily moderators for
review. These daily moderators will be appointed by a moderation group
of at least eight and at most twelve members who will decide on
moderation policy in general and the workings of the 'bot in
particular. Moderation will follow the scheme outlined below:

The 'bot:

- auto-approves articles that match all of these:
  - known author
    OR keyword/phrase in article
    OR reply to approved article to the same set of newsgroups
  - article with less than 300 bytes or 10 lines of binary
    content, whichever is the smaller
  - plain text, without markup encoding
- mails notification of non-approval to original authors,
  without an attempt to circumvent spamblocks
  - notification message explains moderation system,
    and points poster to relevant posting guidelines
- sends non-approved articles to the daily moderators
- uploads non-approved articles to a WWW site, and
  regularly posts a pointer to them
- scans for forged approvals and cancels


The daily moderators:
- individually check articles the 'bot rejected;
  - if at least one of the daily moderators think the
    article is on-topic, it gets posted
  - if it is reposted, the original author is notified

The moderation group:
- appoints the daily moderators
- deals with group abuse that's not caught by the 'bot
  - it has the power to bar persistent abusers by
    unanimous decision for a period of up to
    30 days at a time
- deals with long-term moderation policy
- is obliged to post details of all moderation group
  decisions to the newsgroup
- if a moderation group member does not express an opinion
  on a matter, then their silence shall not be taken as
  supporting either side of a decision

Moderators of news.announce.newgroups and successor groups are
allowed blanket crossposting at their discretion.

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup
should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
  alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt, alt.engineering.electrical,
  comp.arch.embedded, comp.home.automation,
  sci.electronics.design, sci.electronics.misc

and the following mailing lists:

  piclist@mitvma.mit.edu (pic microcontroller discussion list)
      subscribe via: listserv@mitvma.mit.edu
  hotwired@gu.uwa.edu.au (homebuilt processor discussion)
      subscribe via: hotwired-request@gu.uwa.edu.au

After the RFD has been officially posted to news.announce.newgroups
it will be reposted to:

  alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned

Proponent: Mark Sokos     <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Proponent: Theo Markettos <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Mentor:    Simon Lyall    <simon@darkmere.gen.nz>

From neilc@stanford.edu Sun Jun  7 20:30:13 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin <neilc@stanford.edu>
Reply-To: voting@uvv.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical,comp.arch.embedded,comp.home.automation,sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.misc
Subject: CFV: comp.arch.hobbyist moderated
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <897275701.16386@isc.org>
References: <891941015.20601@isc.org> <894334463.29248@isc.org> <895450421.19183@isc.org>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Expires: 30 Jun 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.arch.hobbyist
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 03:15:01 GMT
Lines: 230
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10174 news.groups:286990 comp.arch.embedded:24194 comp.home.automation:35350 sci.electronics.design:51198 sci.electronics.misc:30149

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                  moderated group comp.arch.hobbyist

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.arch.hobbyist	Homebrew digital electronics design. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 29 Jun 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Theo Markettos <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Proponent: Mark Sokos <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Mentor: Simon Lyall <simon@darkmere.gen.nz>
Votetaker: Neil Crellin <neilc@stanford.edu>

RATIONALE: comp.arch.hobbyist

The topic of designing computers and peripheral devices at home is
discussed on the newsgroup alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt. While there is
a great deal of interest in this topic, many people avoid the above
newsgroup due to the fact that it is not moderated, and due to similar
terminology, the newsgroup gets flooded with off topic IBM PC clone
assembly questions. Measures taken to alleviate this problem have
failed to eliminate the off topic noise. It is therefore proposed that
a moderated forum be created, which will allow the topic to be
discussed in a noise free environment.

CHARTER: comp.arch.hobbyist

A moderated forum to exchange ideas, techniques, problems, solutions,
and other information concerning the hobby of electronics design and
construction, specifically related to digital machines and their
peripherals.

Commercial advertisements (except when non-repetitive and directly
relevant to the topic of the group) are expressly forbidden; it is up
to the moderation group to make individual exceptions.

Binary postings in this group are unwelcome.  No postings containing
10K or more of binary content will be accepted.  Postings containing
less than 10K of binary content should only be used where no other
reasonable method is available to convey the information they contain.
All postings containing binary content of more than 10 lines or 300
bytes, whichever is the smaller, shall be forwarded to the daily
moderators for inspection in the same manner as articles from unknown
authors.

Posters wishing to post binaries that do not fit the above criteria
should upload this data to an FTP or WWW site and instead post a
pointer to that site.  The binary regulations do not apply to the
posting of ASCII schematics.

A 'bot moderator will be used, which will reject articles by authors
who have not read the posting guidelines. Articles rejected by the
'bot will be forwarded to a group of three daily moderators for
review. These daily moderators will be appointed by a moderation group
of at least eight and at most twelve members who will decide on
moderation policy in general and the workings of the 'bot in
particular. Moderation will follow the scheme outlined below:

The 'bot:

- auto-approves articles that match all of these:
  - known author
    OR keyword/phrase in article
    OR reply to approved article to the same set of newsgroups
  - article with less than 300 bytes or 10 lines of binary
    content, whichever is the smaller
  - plain text, without markup encoding
- mails notification of non-approval to original authors,
  without an attempt to circumvent spamblocks
  - notification message explains moderation system,
    and points poster to relevant posting guidelines
- sends non-approved articles to the daily moderators
- uploads non-approved articles to a WWW site, and
  regularly posts a pointer to them
- scans for forged approvals and cancels


The daily moderators:
- individually check articles the 'bot rejected;
  - if at least one of the daily moderators think the
    article is on-topic, it gets posted
  - if it is reposted, the original author is notified

The moderation group:
- appoints the daily moderators
- deals with group abuse that's not caught by the 'bot
  - it has the power to bar persistent abusers by
    unanimous decision for a period of up to
    30 days at a time
- deals with long-term moderation policy
- is obliged to post details of all moderation group
  decisions to the newsgroup
- if a moderation group member does not express an opinion
  on a matter, then their silence shall not be taken as
  supporting either side of a decision

Moderators of news.announce.newgroups and successor groups are
allowed blanket crossposting at their discretion.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.arch.hobbyist

Moderator: Jan-Derk Bakker <achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl>
Moderator: Ales Hvezda <ahvezda@ll.mit.edu>
Moderator: Ian Stirling <cah@mauve.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Randy Gardner <randyg@slip.net>
Moderator: Darren Guiden <mod-panel@nitebeat.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Leon Heller <leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Theo Markettos <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Moderator: Mark Sokos <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Administrative contact address: cahmoder@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl
Article submission address: cah@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl

END MODERATOR INFO.

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From neilc@stanford.edu Fri Jun 19 11:30:06 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin <neilc@stanford.edu>
Reply-To: voting@uvv.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical,comp.arch.embedded,comp.home.automation,sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.misc
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.arch.hobbyist moderated
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <898280438.6733@isc.org>
References: <891941015.20601@isc.org> <894334463.29248@isc.org> <895450421.19183@isc.org> <897275701.16386@isc.org>
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Expires: 30 Jun 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.arch.hobbyist
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:20:38 GMT
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Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10209 news.groups:288243 comp.arch.embedded:24798 comp.home.automation:35749 sci.electronics.design:52450 sci.electronics.misc:30802

                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                  moderated group comp.arch.hobbyist

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.arch.hobbyist	Homebrew digital electronics design. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 29 Jun 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Theo Markettos <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Proponent: Mark Sokos <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Mentor: Simon Lyall <simon@darkmere.gen.nz>
Votetaker: Neil Crellin <neilc@stanford.edu>

RATIONALE: comp.arch.hobbyist

The topic of designing computers and peripheral devices at home is
discussed on the newsgroup alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt. While there is
a great deal of interest in this topic, many people avoid the above
newsgroup due to the fact that it is not moderated, and due to similar
terminology, the newsgroup gets flooded with off topic IBM PC clone
assembly questions. Measures taken to alleviate this problem have
failed to eliminate the off topic noise. It is therefore proposed that
a moderated forum be created, which will allow the topic to be
discussed in a noise free environment.

CHARTER: comp.arch.hobbyist

A moderated forum to exchange ideas, techniques, problems, solutions,
and other information concerning the hobby of electronics design and
construction, specifically related to digital machines and their
peripherals.

Commercial advertisements (except when non-repetitive and directly
relevant to the topic of the group) are expressly forbidden; it is up
to the moderation group to make individual exceptions.

Binary postings in this group are unwelcome.  No postings containing
10K or more of binary content will be accepted.  Postings containing
less than 10K of binary content should only be used where no other
reasonable method is available to convey the information they contain.
All postings containing binary content of more than 10 lines or 300
bytes, whichever is the smaller, shall be forwarded to the daily
moderators for inspection in the same manner as articles from unknown
authors.

Posters wishing to post binaries that do not fit the above criteria
should upload this data to an FTP or WWW site and instead post a
pointer to that site.  The binary regulations do not apply to the
posting of ASCII schematics.

A 'bot moderator will be used, which will reject articles by authors
who have not read the posting guidelines. Articles rejected by the
'bot will be forwarded to a group of three daily moderators for
review. These daily moderators will be appointed by a moderation group
of at least eight and at most twelve members who will decide on
moderation policy in general and the workings of the 'bot in
particular. Moderation will follow the scheme outlined below:

The 'bot:

- auto-approves articles that match all of these:
  - known author
    OR keyword/phrase in article
    OR reply to approved article to the same set of newsgroups
  - article with less than 300 bytes or 10 lines of binary
    content, whichever is the smaller
  - plain text, without markup encoding
- mails notification of non-approval to original authors,
  without an attempt to circumvent spamblocks
  - notification message explains moderation system,
    and points poster to relevant posting guidelines
- sends non-approved articles to the daily moderators
- uploads non-approved articles to a WWW site, and
  regularly posts a pointer to them
- scans for forged approvals and cancels


The daily moderators:
- individually check articles the 'bot rejected;
  - if at least one of the daily moderators think the
    article is on-topic, it gets posted
  - if it is reposted, the original author is notified

The moderation group:
- appoints the daily moderators
- deals with group abuse that's not caught by the 'bot
  - it has the power to bar persistent abusers by
    unanimous decision for a period of up to
    30 days at a time
- deals with long-term moderation policy
- is obliged to post details of all moderation group
  decisions to the newsgroup
- if a moderation group member does not express an opinion
  on a matter, then their silence shall not be taken as
  supporting either side of a decision

Moderators of news.announce.newgroups and successor groups are
allowed blanket crossposting at their discretion.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.arch.hobbyist

Moderator: Jan-Derk Bakker <achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl>
Moderator: Ales Hvezda <ahvezda@ll.mit.edu>
Moderator: Ian Stirling <cah@mauve.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Randy Gardner <randyg@slip.net>
Moderator: Darren Guiden <mod-panel@nitebeat.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Leon Heller <leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Theo Markettos <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Moderator: Mark Sokos <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Administrative contact address: cahmoder@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl
Article submission address: cah@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at <neilc@stanford.edu>.

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
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| 2ND CALL FOR VOTES: comp.arch.hobbyist
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| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.arch.hobbyist

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============

DISTRIBUTION:

Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups:

alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned
alt.folklore.computers
alt.home.automation
comp.lang.verilog
comp.lang.vhdl
comp.lsi
comp.os.cpm
comp.periphs
comp.robotics.misc
comp.sys.arm
comp.sys.m6809
comp.sys.m68k
comp.sys.m88k
comp.sys.mips
comp.sys.nsc.32k
comp.sys.powerpc.tech
comp.sys.transputer
rec.radio.amateur.homebrew

and also to these mailing lists

piclist@mitvma.mit.edu
hotwired@gu.uwa.edu.au

comp.arch.hobbyist Bounce List - Please contact me about your vote
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
brian@karas.com.delthis                                             Brian Karas
hf@Melog.Not.This.DE                                                 Hauke Fath
mgriswold@environics.com.NOSPAM                                   Mark Griswold

This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980322

-- 
Voting address: voting@uvv.stanford.edu

From neilc@stanford.edu Tue Jun 30 06:00:23 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin <neilc@stanford.edu>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.engineering.electrical,comp.arch.embedded,comp.home.automation,sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.misc
Subject: RESULT: comp.arch.hobbyist moderated passes 199:15
Followup-To: news.groups
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Supersedes: <898280438.6733@isc.org>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Archive-Name: comp.arch.hobbyist
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:54:47 GMT
Lines: 362
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                                RESULT
           moderated group comp.arch.hobbyist passes 199:15

There were 199 YES votes and 15 NO votes, for a total of 214 valid
votes.  There were 2 abstentions.

For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid
(YES and NO) votes.  There must also be at least 100 more YES votes
than NO votes.

A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly
thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
comp.arch.hobbyist	Homebrew digital electronics design. (Moderated)

The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 29 Jun 1998.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Theo Markettos <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Proponent: Mark Sokos <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Mentor: Simon Lyall <simon@darkmere.gen.nz>
Votetaker: Neil Crellin <neilc@stanford.edu>

RATIONALE: comp.arch.hobbyist

The topic of designing computers and peripheral devices at home is
discussed on the newsgroup alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt. While there is
a great deal of interest in this topic, many people avoid the above
newsgroup due to the fact that it is not moderated, and due to similar
terminology, the newsgroup gets flooded with off topic IBM PC clone
assembly questions. Measures taken to alleviate this problem have
failed to eliminate the off topic noise. It is therefore proposed that
a moderated forum be created, which will allow the topic to be
discussed in a noise free environment.

CHARTER: comp.arch.hobbyist

A moderated forum to exchange ideas, techniques, problems, solutions,
and other information concerning the hobby of electronics design and
construction, specifically related to digital machines and their
peripherals.

Commercial advertisements (except when non-repetitive and directly
relevant to the topic of the group) are expressly forbidden; it is up
to the moderation group to make individual exceptions.

Binary postings in this group are unwelcome.  No postings containing
10K or more of binary content will be accepted.  Postings containing
less than 10K of binary content should only be used where no other
reasonable method is available to convey the information they contain.
All postings containing binary content of more than 10 lines or 300
bytes, whichever is the smaller, shall be forwarded to the daily
moderators for inspection in the same manner as articles from unknown
authors.

Posters wishing to post binaries that do not fit the above criteria
should upload this data to an FTP or WWW site and instead post a
pointer to that site.  The binary regulations do not apply to the
posting of ASCII schematics.

A 'bot moderator will be used, which will reject articles by authors
who have not read the posting guidelines. Articles rejected by the
'bot will be forwarded to a group of three daily moderators for
review. These daily moderators will be appointed by a moderation group
of at least eight and at most twelve members who will decide on
moderation policy in general and the workings of the 'bot in
particular. Moderation will follow the scheme outlined below:

The 'bot:

- auto-approves articles that match all of these:
  - known author
    OR keyword/phrase in article
    OR reply to approved article to the same set of newsgroups
  - article with less than 300 bytes or 10 lines of binary
    content, whichever is the smaller
  - plain text, without markup encoding
- mails notification of non-approval to original authors,
  without an attempt to circumvent spamblocks
  - notification message explains moderation system,
    and points poster to relevant posting guidelines
- sends non-approved articles to the daily moderators
- uploads non-approved articles to a WWW site, and
  regularly posts a pointer to them
- scans for forged approvals and cancels


The daily moderators:
- individually check articles the 'bot rejected;
  - if at least one of the daily moderators think the
    article is on-topic, it gets posted
  - if it is reposted, the original author is notified

The moderation group:
- appoints the daily moderators
- deals with group abuse that's not caught by the 'bot
  - it has the power to bar persistent abusers by
    unanimous decision for a period of up to
    30 days at a time
- deals with long-term moderation policy
- is obliged to post details of all moderation group
  decisions to the newsgroup
- if a moderation group member does not express an opinion
  on a matter, then their silence shall not be taken as
  supporting either side of a decision

Moderators of news.announce.newgroups and successor groups are
allowed blanket crossposting at their discretion.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.arch.hobbyist

Moderator: Jan-Derk Bakker <achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl>
Moderator: Ales Hvezda <ahvezda@ll.mit.edu>
Moderator: Ian Stirling <cah@mauve.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Randy Gardner <randyg@slip.net>
Moderator: Darren Guiden <mod-panel@nitebeat.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Leon Heller <leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Theo Markettos <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Moderator: Mark Sokos <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Administrative contact address: cahmoder@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl
Article submission address: cah@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl

END MODERATOR INFO.



comp.arch.hobbyist Final Voter list

Voted YES
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ira [at] atnet.at                                                Gottfried Ira
SReddie [at] cybec.com.au                                        Steven Reddie
bhughes [at] mh-1.mmal.com.au                                       Ben Hughes
andrewm [at] quicknet.com.au                             Andrew James McCubbin
raoul [at] ind.tansu.com.au                                        Raoul Golan
smjc [at] it.uq.edu.au                                            Simon Carter
eyal [at] eyal.emu.id.au                                       Eyal Lebedinsky
jasmine [at] fl.net.au                                          Jasmine Taylor
abuse [at] brushtail.apana.org.au                    Chris Crazed-Weasel Baird
year6210 [at] club.innet.be                                      Stefaan Claes
dmeed [at] nbnet.nb.ca                                              David Meed
chriseb [at] nortel.ca                                          chris ebenezer
jmcgarry [at] uoguelph.ca                                        James McGarry
brandon [at] 2i.com                                              Brandon Hines
dd [at] Adobe.COM                                              David DiGiacomo
albaugh [at] agames.com                                           Mike Albaugh
Chiuj [at] aol.com                                                   John Chiu
Djamel2 [at] aol.com                                        Jason Aubrey Wells
jnoble [at] arm.com                                                  Jim Noble
rstevew [at] armory.com                                    Richard Steven Walz
kimdv [at] best.com                                               Kim DeVaughn
gherbert [at] crl.com                                   George William Herbert
billm [at] cygnus.com                                               Bill Moyer
fche [at] cygnus.com                                          Frank Ch. Eigler
booda [at] datasync.com                                        Martin H. Booda
Richard_Furman [at] decopac.com                                    Rich Furman
guymacon [at] deltanet.com                   guymacon@deltanet.com (Guy Macon)
wpfulmor [at] dimensional.com                                William P. Fulmor
Rkoll [at] draeger.com                                                Rob Koll
mgriswold [at] environics.com                                    Mark Griswold
chare [at] erols.com                                                Chris Hare
glotfelt [at] erols.com                                        David Glotfelty
mjcoyle [at] erols.com                    Michael F. Coyle <mjcoyle@erols.com>
alex_holden [at] geocities.com                                     Alex Holden
florisl [at] geocities.com                                   Floris Looyesteyn
yifatstable [at] geocities.com                                   Tomer Brisker
RJohnson [at] GoalDesigns.com                                  Richard Johnson
robert_baker [at] hotmail.com                                     Robert Baker
suesound [at] iafrica.com                                          Robert Gush
upton [at] austin.ibm.com                                           John Upton
rstaab [at] icon.com                                              Robert Staab
mgiroux [at] IConNet.COM                                           Mike Giroux
richard_damon [at] iname.com                                     Richard Damon
phall [at] tsb.inet-images.com                                     Philip Hall
bill_r [at] inetnebr.com                                          Bill Richman
zdenekjs [at] interaccess.com                                     Jerry Zdenek
pdavies [at] interlog.com                                          Paul Davies
dougob [at] javanet.com                                           Doug O'Brien
brian [at] karas.com                                               Brian Karas
javier [at] kjsl.com                                          Javier Henderson
francesco.micale [at] lmco.com                                Francesco Micale
souliere [at] tnt.microimages.com                                 Ron Souliere
cipher [at] mindspring.com                                              Cipher
rcini [at] email.msn.com                                       Richard A. Cini
john_switzer [at] net.com                                         John Switzer
fliptron [at] netcom.com                                        Philip Freidin
mzenier [at] netcom.com                                            Mark Zenier
source [at] netcom.com                                            David Harmon
tgm [at] netcom.com                                       Thomas G. McWilliams
ulf [at] nsc.com                                                Ulf Samuelsson
fbreame [at] dial.pipex.com                                     Francis Breame
rlcarr [at] animato.pn.com                                       Rich Carreiro
timr [at] probo.com                                                Tim Roberts
playle [at] sil.com                                                Mike Playle
stamper [at] stamper.com                                         Chris Stamper
dwolff [at] world.std.com                                          David Wolff
mbonner [at] sunada.com                                            Matt Bonner
tcooper [at] dt5.t-t.com                                           Todd Cooper
arielle [at] taronga.com                                    Stephanie da Silva
peter [at] taronga.com                                          Peter da Silva
gigabyte [at] technologist.com                                 Stacey Wellborn
jjhowe [at] teleport.com                                              Jim Howe
whoever [at] crazyclimber.u-net.com                              Stuart Taylor
phil [at] ultimate.com                                              Phil Budne
acj [at] ultranet.com                                               Jon Goguen
Kerry.Langsford [at] UNISYS.com                                Kerry Langsford
tom [at] dbstw.escape.de                                     Dr. Thomas Wutzke
agni [at] zedat.fu-berlin.de                                  Gerd Truschinski
kleiss [at] HDPP.de                                      Klaus - Guenter Leiss
hf [at] Melog.DE                                                    Hauke Fath
naddy [at] mips.rhein-neckar.de                           Christian Weisgerber
peter.kannegiesser [at] t-online.de                          Peter Kannegieer
a.fachat [at] physik.tu-chemnitz.de                               Andre Fachat
Konstantinos.Xonis [at] physik.uni-giessen.de               Konstantinos Xonis
Matthias.Benkmann [at] physik.uni-muenchen.de             Matthias S. Benkmann
uwe.schueler [at] uni-tuebingen.de                                Uwe Schueler
gary [at] CS.Arizona.EDU                                             Gary Wong
rajwi [at] engc.bu.edu                                         Rajwinder Singh
morgoth [at] ecst.csuchico.edu                                     Brian Goudy
ap096 [at] po.cwru.edu                                        Kevin Dahlhausen
hh299 [at] cleveland.Freenet.Edu                                Jim Baranovich
ahvezda [at] ll.mit.edu                                         Ales V. Hvezda
cburian [at] ll.mit.edu                                     Christopher Burian
y-pisan [at] nwu.edu                                               Yusuf Pisan
gordot2 [at] rpi.edu                                               Tarl Gordon
dwjurkat [at] MailBox.Syr.Edu                                    Detlef Jurkat
mdewing [at] physics.uiuc.edu                                      Mark Dewing
msokos1 [at] gl.umbc.edu                                            Mark Sokos
lscharf [at] vt.edu                                                Luke Scharf
biffs [at] u.washington.edu                                        Randy Smith
scanlon [at] cae.wisc.edu                                         Sean Scanlon
rufinus [at] mbe.ece.wisc.edu                                        J Rufinus
goose [at] WPI.EDU                                             Matthew Gosline
mmar1059 [at] alu-etsetb.upc.es                                          Viper
mjsaaris+usenet [at] cc.jyu.fi                                   Mika Saaristo
trossi [at] trixatronic.co.jyu.fi                                   Timo Rossi
franckey [at] imaginet.fr                                     Franckey Rougane
ehuiban [at] pyrenet.fr                                            Eric Huiban
jpc [at] drum.msfc.nasa.gov                                    J. Porter Clark
adia [at] egnatia.ee.auth.gr                            Alejandros Diamandidis
Phoebus [at] di.uoa.gr                                       Vilanakis Phoebus
azummo [at] ita.flashnet.it                                   Alessandro Zummo
alemorale [at] qsconsul.it                MORALE Alessio alemorale@qsconsul.it
rsatk [at] taide.lt                                        Ramunas Satkevicius
jackklein [at] worldnet.att.net                                     Jack Klein
ncherry [at] worldnet.att.net             Neil Cherry ncherry@worldnet.att.net
rwaltman [at] bellatlantic.net                                 Roberto Waltman
paul [at] geeky1.ebtech.net                                      Paul Anderson
evander [at] epix.net                                                  evander
arog [at] gte.net                                                    A R Ogden
jsgray [at] gte.net                                                    J. Gray
fritzo [at] humboldt.net                                        Fritz Oppliger
gdgoen19 [at] idt.net                                              Glenn Goens
wyaw_osu [at] ionet.net                                           Yawyuan Wong
ehaskell [at] sparc.isl.net                                      Ed S. Haskell
spectrac [at] micron.net                                            Dave White
crward [at] netins.net                                          Charles R Ward
geezer [at] netwurx.net                                   Christopher E. Giese
aerie [at] on-net.net                                         Eric G Roesinger
rdj [at] oro.net                                                Robert Johnson
alexdawson [at] pemail.net                                         Alex Dawson
peter [at] phillips.net                                      Peter L. Phillips
DV_BOMAN [at] prodigy.net                                           dean boman
dbpjsks [at] shentel.net                                     Donald B. Shields
randyg [at] slip.net                                             Randy Gardner
crb [at] sonic.net                                               Charlie Burns
jjette [at] sundial.net                                         John Jeannette
jtmartin [at] teleplex.net                                         John Martin
bradshaw [at] tiac.net                                           John Bradshaw
bewhole [at] together.net                                        Brian Hayford
michael.preston [at] virgin.net                                   Mike Preston
beattidp [at] whidbey.net                                  Douglas Beattie Jr.
nctnico [at] cistron.nl                                              N. Coesel
martijnb [at] stack.nl                                        Martijn van Buul
ben [at] stuyts.nl                                                  Ben Stuyts
h.metselaar [at] wb.utwente.nl                                  Henk Metselaar
ole.saether [at] eunet.no                                          Ole Saether
knutel [at] stud.ntnu.no                                         Knut Eldhuset
aleistad [at] online.no                                            Are Leistad
ahfa [at] tdata.no                                           Arne Herman Falch
j.s.refvik [at] usit.uio.no                                  Jan Sigurd Refvik
bill [at] hugpar.gen.nz                                            Bill Parkin
david [at] home.net.nz                                            David Farrar
jtlawson [at] gto.net.om                                           John Lawson
jim.symolon [at] bhs.org                                          Symolon, Jim
nospam [at] haar.ddns.org                                             Jan Haar
nat [at] nataa.fr.eu.org                                       Nat Makarevitch
ese002 [at] news9.exile.org                                       Eric Edwards
forbesm [at] peak.org                                           Mark G. Forbes
pa [at] cdg.chalmers.se                                          Per Andersson
kent.johansson [at] databorgen.se                               Kent Johansson
Henrik.Johnsson [at] emw.ericsson.se                           Henrik Johnsson
cl3polof [at] cling.gu.se                                         Per Olofsson
lore [at] lysator.liu.se                                       Erland Costyson
anders [at] ol.campus.luth.se                                   Anders Nystrm
jsm28 [at] cam.ac.uk                                       Joseph Samuel Myers
smallsa7 [at] cs.man.ac.uk                                    Andrew Smallshaw
neil.woolfries [at] strath.ac.uk                                Neil Woolfries
I96AS [at] tay.ac.uk                                            Allan Stirling
darren.guiden [at] barclaycard.co.uk                             Darren Guiden
bulb [at] cix.compulink.co.uk                                      Jeremy Todd
jhd [at] clavius.demon.co.uk                                        John Deane
chris [at] cti-vision.demon.co.uk                                 Chris Savage
mike [at] defunk.demon.co.uk                                      Mike Topping
kerry [at] elcontrol.demon.co.uk                                  Kerry Morris
douglas+usenet [at] fang.demon.co.uk                           Douglas Brebner
adrian [at] fangorn.demon.co.uk                                  Adrian Godwin
leon [at] lfheller.demon.co.uk                                     Leon Heller
andy [at] madhouse.demon.co.uk                                     Amdrew Bray
mark [at] markdib.demon.co.uk                                      Mark Dyball
theo [at] marketto.demon.co.uk                                  Theo Markettos
cahvote [at] mauve.demon.co.uk                                    Ian Stirling
robert [at] mauve.demon.co.uk                                    Robert Howard
rob [at] mhairi.demon.co.uk                                      Rob Alexander
neil [at] nitebeat.demon.co.uk                                     Neil Guiden
Andy [at] nukleen.demon.co.uk                                     Andy Tyler =
ard [at] p850ug1.demon.co.uk                                        Tony Duell
adam [at] paramedx.demon.co.uk                                     Adam Lovick
plees [at] plees.demon.co.uk                                        peter lees
dan [at] podling.demon.co.uk                                      Dan Chalmers
Conor [at] puddle.demon.co.uk                                    Conor O'Neill
Voting [at] valdena.demon.co.uk                                            AST
philh [at] vision25.demon.co.uk                                    Philip Hunt
murble [at] xencat.demon.co.uk                                William Boughton
fav [at] eidos.co.uk                                     Frank A. Vorstenbosch
steve [at] sj.co.uk                                              Steve Wiseman
duncan [at] ironhorse.source.co.uk                             Duncan Entwisle
rw [at] shadow.org.uk                                              Rich Walker
mcintosh [at] vima.austin.tx.us                                Aubrey McIntosh

Voted NO
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stainles [at] bga.com                                             Dwight Brown
julesd [at] edifax.com                                            Jules Dubois
bob149 [at] efortress.com                                        Bob Blanchard
jason [at] gaydeceiver.com                                       Jason Steiner
bonine [at] interaccess.com
olav [at] viking.mv.com                                        Olav Nieuwejaar
daver [at] teleport.com                                         David Reynolds
Ekkehard.Uthke [at] gmx.de                                      Ekkehard Uthke
rick [at] bcm.tmc.edu                                           Richard Miller
segercra [at] cc.helsinki.fi                                Mikael Segercrantz
rkerman [at] mail.bright.net                                    Richard Kerman
pbern7 [at] earthlink.net                                       Paul Bernhardt
msoysal [at] mistik.express.net                            Mustafa Soysal MS57
skurz [at] norfolk.infi.net                                         Steve Kurz
Martin [at] crozet.demon.co.uk                                Martin Nicholson

Abstained
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cdt [at] audiophile.com                                         Chris Trumbore
chris [at] kzim.com                                Christopher Robin Zimmerman

-- 
Neil Crellin, UVV <neilc@stanford.edu>

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From: Neil Crellin <neilc@stanford.edu>
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                                RESULT
           moderated group comp.arch.hobbyist passes 199:15

There were 199 YES votes and 15 NO votes, for a total of 214 valid
votes.  There were 2 abstentions.

For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid
(YES and NO) votes.  There must also be at least 100 more YES votes
than NO votes.

A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly
thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
comp.arch.hobbyist	Homebrew digital electronics design. (Moderated)

The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 29 Jun 1998.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Theo Markettos <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Proponent: Mark Sokos <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Mentor: Simon Lyall <simon@darkmere.gen.nz>
Votetaker: Neil Crellin <neilc@stanford.edu>

RATIONALE: comp.arch.hobbyist

The topic of designing computers and peripheral devices at home is
discussed on the newsgroup alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt. While there is
a great deal of interest in this topic, many people avoid the above
newsgroup due to the fact that it is not moderated, and due to similar
terminology, the newsgroup gets flooded with off topic IBM PC clone
assembly questions. Measures taken to alleviate this problem have
failed to eliminate the off topic noise. It is therefore proposed that
a moderated forum be created, which will allow the topic to be
discussed in a noise free environment.

CHARTER: comp.arch.hobbyist

A moderated forum to exchange ideas, techniques, problems, solutions,
and other information concerning the hobby of electronics design and
construction, specifically related to digital machines and their
peripherals.

Commercial advertisements (except when non-repetitive and directly
relevant to the topic of the group) are expressly forbidden; it is up
to the moderation group to make individual exceptions.

Binary postings in this group are unwelcome.  No postings containing
10K or more of binary content will be accepted.  Postings containing
less than 10K of binary content should only be used where no other
reasonable method is available to convey the information they contain.
All postings containing binary content of more than 10 lines or 300
bytes, whichever is the smaller, shall be forwarded to the daily
moderators for inspection in the same manner as articles from unknown
authors.

Posters wishing to post binaries that do not fit the above criteria
should upload this data to an FTP or WWW site and instead post a
pointer to that site.  The binary regulations do not apply to the
posting of ASCII schematics.

A 'bot moderator will be used, which will reject articles by authors
who have not read the posting guidelines. Articles rejected by the
'bot will be forwarded to a group of three daily moderators for
review. These daily moderators will be appointed by a moderation group
of at least eight and at most twelve members who will decide on
moderation policy in general and the workings of the 'bot in
particular. Moderation will follow the scheme outlined below:

The 'bot:

- auto-approves articles that match all of these:
  - known author
    OR keyword/phrase in article
    OR reply to approved article to the same set of newsgroups
  - article with less than 300 bytes or 10 lines of binary
    content, whichever is the smaller
  - plain text, without markup encoding
- mails notification of non-approval to original authors,
  without an attempt to circumvent spamblocks
  - notification message explains moderation system,
    and points poster to relevant posting guidelines
- sends non-approved articles to the daily moderators
- uploads non-approved articles to a WWW site, and
  regularly posts a pointer to them
- scans for forged approvals and cancels


The daily moderators:
- individually check articles the 'bot rejected;
  - if at least one of the daily moderators think the
    article is on-topic, it gets posted
  - if it is reposted, the original author is notified

The moderation group:
- appoints the daily moderators
- deals with group abuse that's not caught by the 'bot
  - it has the power to bar persistent abusers by
    unanimous decision for a period of up to
    30 days at a time
- deals with long-term moderation policy
- is obliged to post details of all moderation group
  decisions to the newsgroup
- if a moderation group member does not express an opinion
  on a matter, then their silence shall not be taken as
  supporting either side of a decision

Moderators of news.announce.newgroups and successor groups are
allowed blanket crossposting at their discretion.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.arch.hobbyist

Moderator: Jan-Derk Bakker <achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl>
Moderator: Ales Hvezda <ahvezda@ll.mit.edu>
Moderator: Ian Stirling <cah@mauve.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Randy Gardner <randyg@slip.net>
Moderator: Darren Guiden <mod-panel@nitebeat.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Leon Heller <leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk>
Moderator: Theo Markettos <theomarkettos@letterbox.com>
Moderator: Mark Sokos <msokos1@gl.umbc.edu>
Administrative contact address: cahmoder@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl
Article submission address: cah@thorgal.et.tudelft.nl

END MODERATOR INFO.



comp.arch.hobbyist Final Voter list

Voted YES
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ira [at] atnet.at                                                Gottfried Ira
SReddie [at] cybec.com.au                                        Steven Reddie
bhughes [at] mh-1.mmal.com.au                                       Ben Hughes
andrewm [at] quicknet.com.au                             Andrew James McCubbin
raoul [at] ind.tansu.com.au                                        Raoul Golan
smjc [at] it.uq.edu.au                                            Simon Carter
eyal [at] eyal.emu.id.au                                       Eyal Lebedinsky
jasmine [at] fl.net.au                                          Jasmine Taylor
abuse [at] brushtail.apana.org.au                    Chris Crazed-Weasel Baird
year6210 [at] club.innet.be                                      Stefaan Claes
dmeed [at] nbnet.nb.ca                                              David Meed
chriseb [at] nortel.ca                                          chris ebenezer
jmcgarry [at] uoguelph.ca                                        James McGarry
brandon [at] 2i.com                                              Brandon Hines
dd [at] Adobe.COM                                              David DiGiacomo
albaugh [at] agames.com                                           Mike Albaugh
Chiuj [at] aol.com                                                   John Chiu
Djamel2 [at] aol.com                                        Jason Aubrey Wells
jnoble [at] arm.com                                                  Jim Noble
rstevew [at] armory.com                                    Richard Steven Walz
kimdv [at] best.com                                               Kim DeVaughn
gherbert [at] crl.com                                   George William Herbert
billm [at] cygnus.com                                               Bill Moyer
fche [at] cygnus.com                                          Frank Ch. Eigler
booda [at] datasync.com                                        Martin H. Booda
Richard_Furman [at] decopac.com                                    Rich Furman
guymacon [at] deltanet.com                   guymacon@deltanet.com (Guy Macon)
wpfulmor [at] dimensional.com                                William P. Fulmor
Rkoll [at] draeger.com                                                Rob Koll
mgriswold [at] environics.com                                    Mark Griswold
chare [at] erols.com                                                Chris Hare
glotfelt [at] erols.com                                        David Glotfelty
mjcoyle [at] erols.com                    Michael F. Coyle <mjcoyle@erols.com>
alex_holden [at] geocities.com                                     Alex Holden
florisl [at] geocities.com                                   Floris Looyesteyn
yifatstable [at] geocities.com                                   Tomer Brisker
RJohnson [at] GoalDesigns.com                                  Richard Johnson
robert_baker [at] hotmail.com                                     Robert Baker
suesound [at] iafrica.com                                          Robert Gush
upton [at] austin.ibm.com                                           John Upton
rstaab [at] icon.com                                              Robert Staab
mgiroux [at] IConNet.COM                                           Mike Giroux
richard_damon [at] iname.com                                     Richard Damon
phall [at] tsb.inet-images.com                                     Philip Hall
bill_r [at] inetnebr.com                                          Bill Richman
zdenekjs [at] interaccess.com                                     Jerry Zdenek
pdavies [at] interlog.com                                          Paul Davies
dougob [at] javanet.com                                           Doug O'Brien
brian [at] karas.com                                               Brian Karas
javier [at] kjsl.com                                          Javier Henderson
francesco.micale [at] lmco.com                                Francesco Micale
souliere [at] tnt.microimages.com                                 Ron Souliere
cipher [at] mindspring.com                                              Cipher
rcini [at] email.msn.com                                       Richard A. Cini
john_switzer [at] net.com                                         John Switzer
fliptron [at] netcom.com                                        Philip Freidin
mzenier [at] netcom.com                                            Mark Zenier
source [at] netcom.com                                            David Harmon
tgm [at] netcom.com                                       Thomas G. McWilliams
ulf [at] nsc.com                                                Ulf Samuelsson
fbreame [at] dial.pipex.com                                     Francis Breame
rlcarr [at] animato.pn.com                                       Rich Carreiro
timr [at] probo.com                                                Tim Roberts
playle [at] sil.com                                                Mike Playle
stamper [at] stamper.com                                         Chris Stamper
dwolff [at] world.std.com                                          David Wolff
mbonner [at] sunada.com                                            Matt Bonner
tcooper [at] dt5.t-t.com                                           Todd Cooper
arielle [at] taronga.com                                    Stephanie da Silva
peter [at] taronga.com                                          Peter da Silva
gigabyte [at] technologist.com                                 Stacey Wellborn
jjhowe [at] teleport.com                                              Jim Howe
whoever [at] crazyclimber.u-net.com                              Stuart Taylor
phil [at] ultimate.com                                              Phil Budne
acj [at] ultranet.com                                               Jon Goguen
Kerry.Langsford [at] UNISYS.com                                Kerry Langsford
tom [at] dbstw.escape.de                                     Dr. Thomas Wutzke
agni [at] zedat.fu-berlin.de                                  Gerd Truschinski
kleiss [at] HDPP.de                                      Klaus - Guenter Leiss
hf [at] Melog.DE                                                    Hauke Fath
naddy [at] mips.rhein-neckar.de                           Christian Weisgerber
peter.kannegiesser [at] t-online.de                          Peter Kannegieer
a.fachat [at] physik.tu-chemnitz.de                               Andre Fachat
Konstantinos.Xonis [at] physik.uni-giessen.de               Konstantinos Xonis
Matthias.Benkmann [at] physik.uni-muenchen.de             Matthias S. Benkmann
uwe.schueler [at] uni-tuebingen.de                                Uwe Schueler
gary [at] CS.Arizona.EDU                                             Gary Wong
rajwi [at] engc.bu.edu                                         Rajwinder Singh
morgoth [at] ecst.csuchico.edu                                     Brian Goudy
ap096 [at] po.cwru.edu                                        Kevin Dahlhausen
hh299 [at] cleveland.Freenet.Edu                                Jim Baranovich
ahvezda [at] ll.mit.edu                                         Ales V. Hvezda
cburian [at] ll.mit.edu                                     Christopher Burian
y-pisan [at] nwu.edu                                               Yusuf Pisan
gordot2 [at] rpi.edu                                               Tarl Gordon
dwjurkat [at] MailBox.Syr.Edu                                    Detlef Jurkat
mdewing [at] physics.uiuc.edu                                      Mark Dewing
msokos1 [at] gl.umbc.edu                                            Mark Sokos
lscharf [at] vt.edu                                                Luke Scharf
biffs [at] u.washington.edu                                        Randy Smith
scanlon [at] cae.wisc.edu                                         Sean Scanlon
rufinus [at] mbe.ece.wisc.edu                                        J Rufinus
goose [at] WPI.EDU                                             Matthew Gosline
mmar1059 [at] alu-etsetb.upc.es                                          Viper
mjsaaris+usenet [at] cc.jyu.fi                                   Mika Saaristo
trossi [at] trixatronic.co.jyu.fi                                   Timo Rossi
franckey [at] imaginet.fr                                     Franckey Rougane
ehuiban [at] pyrenet.fr                                            Eric Huiban
jpc [at] drum.msfc.nasa.gov                                    J. Porter Clark
adia [at] egnatia.ee.auth.gr                            Alejandros Diamandidis
Phoebus [at] di.uoa.gr                                       Vilanakis Phoebus
azummo [at] ita.flashnet.it                                   Alessandro Zummo
alemorale [at] qsconsul.it                MORALE Alessio alemorale@qsconsul.it
rsatk [at] taide.lt                                        Ramunas Satkevicius
jackklein [at] worldnet.att.net                                     Jack Klein
ncherry [at] worldnet.att.net             Neil Cherry ncherry@worldnet.att.net
rwaltman [at] bellatlantic.net                                 Roberto Waltman
paul [at] geeky1.ebtech.net                                      Paul Anderson
evander [at] epix.net                                                  evander
arog [at] gte.net                                                    A R Ogden
jsgray [at] gte.net                                                    J. Gray
fritzo [at] humboldt.net                                        Fritz Oppliger
gdgoen19 [at] idt.net                                              Glenn Goens
wyaw_osu [at] ionet.net                                           Yawyuan Wong
ehaskell [at] sparc.isl.net                                      Ed S. Haskell
spectrac [at] micron.net                                            Dave White
crward [at] netins.net                                          Charles R Ward
geezer [at] netwurx.net                                   Christopher E. Giese
aerie [at] on-net.net                                         Eric G Roesinger
rdj [at] oro.net                                                Robert Johnson
alexdawson [at] pemail.net                                         Alex Dawson
peter [at] phillips.net                                      Peter L. Phillips
DV_BOMAN [at] prodigy.net                                           dean boman
dbpjsks [at] shentel.net                                     Donald B. Shields
randyg [at] slip.net                                             Randy Gardner
crb [at] sonic.net                                               Charlie Burns
jjette [at] sundial.net                                         John Jeannette
jtmartin [at] teleplex.net                                         John Martin
bradshaw [at] tiac.net                                           John Bradshaw
bewhole [at] together.net                                        Brian Hayford
michael.preston [at] virgin.net                                   Mike Preston
beattidp [at] whidbey.net                                  Douglas Beattie Jr.
nctnico [at] cistron.nl                                              N. Coesel
martijnb [at] stack.nl                                        Martijn van Buul
ben [at] stuyts.nl                                                  Ben Stuyts
h.metselaar [at] wb.utwente.nl                                  Henk Metselaar
ole.saether [at] eunet.no                                          Ole Saether
knutel [at] stud.ntnu.no                                         Knut Eldhuset
aleistad [at] online.no                                            Are Leistad
ahfa [at] tdata.no                                           Arne Herman Falch
j.s.refvik [at] usit.uio.no                                  Jan Sigurd Refvik
bill [at] hugpar.gen.nz                                            Bill Parkin
david [at] home.net.nz                                            David Farrar
jtlawson [at] gto.net.om                                           John Lawson
jim.symolon [at] bhs.org                                          Symolon, Jim
nospam [at] haar.ddns.org                                             Jan Haar
nat [at] nataa.fr.eu.org                                       Nat Makarevitch
ese002 [at] news9.exile.org                                       Eric Edwards
forbesm [at] peak.org                                           Mark G. Forbes
pa [at] cdg.chalmers.se                                          Per Andersson
kent.johansson [at] databorgen.se                               Kent Johansson
Henrik.Johnsson [at] emw.ericsson.se                           Henrik Johnsson
cl3polof [at] cling.gu.se                                         Per Olofsson
lore [at] lysator.liu.se                                       Erland Costyson
anders [at] ol.campus.luth.se                                   Anders Nystrm
jsm28 [at] cam.ac.uk                                       Joseph Samuel Myers
smallsa7 [at] cs.man.ac.uk                                    Andrew Smallshaw
neil.woolfries [at] strath.ac.uk                                Neil Woolfries
I96AS [at] tay.ac.uk                                            Allan Stirling
darren.guiden [at] barclaycard.co.uk                             Darren Guiden
bulb [at] cix.compulink.co.uk                                      Jeremy Todd
jhd [at] clavius.demon.co.uk                                        John Deane
chris [at] cti-vision.demon.co.uk                                 Chris Savage
mike [at] defunk.demon.co.uk                                      Mike Topping
kerry [at] elcontrol.demon.co.uk                                  Kerry Morris
douglas+usenet [at] fang.demon.co.uk                           Douglas Brebner
adrian [at] fangorn.demon.co.uk                                  Adrian Godwin
leon [at] lfheller.demon.co.uk                                     Leon Heller
andy [at] madhouse.demon.co.uk                                     Amdrew Bray
mark [at] markdib.demon.co.uk                                      Mark Dyball
theo [at] marketto.demon.co.uk                                  Theo Markettos
cahvote [at] mauve.demon.co.uk                                    Ian Stirling
robert [at] mauve.demon.co.uk                                    Robert Howard
rob [at] mhairi.demon.co.uk                                      Rob Alexander
neil [at] nitebeat.demon.co.uk                                     Neil Guiden
Andy [at] nukleen.demon.co.uk                                     Andy Tyler =
ard [at] p850ug1.demon.co.uk                                        Tony Duell
adam [at] paramedx.demon.co.uk                                     Adam Lovick
plees [at] plees.demon.co.uk                                        peter lees
dan [at] podling.demon.co.uk                                      Dan Chalmers
Conor [at] puddle.demon.co.uk                                    Conor O'Neill
Voting [at] valdena.demon.co.uk                                            AST
philh [at] vision25.demon.co.uk                                    Philip Hunt
murble [at] xencat.demon.co.uk                                William Boughton
fav [at] eidos.co.uk                                     Frank A. Vorstenbosch
steve [at] sj.co.uk                                              Steve Wiseman
duncan [at] ironhorse.source.co.uk                             Duncan Entwisle
rw [at] shadow.org.uk                                              Rich Walker
mcintosh [at] vima.austin.tx.us                                Aubrey McIntosh

Voted NO
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stainles [at] bga.com                                             Dwight Brown
julesd [at] edifax.com                                            Jules Dubois
bob149 [at] efortress.com                                        Bob Blanchard
jason [at] gaydeceiver.com                                       Jason Steiner
bonine [at] interaccess.com
olav [at] viking.mv.com                                        Olav Nieuwejaar
daver [at] teleport.com                                         David Reynolds
Ekkehard.Uthke [at] gmx.de                                      Ekkehard Uthke
rick [at] bcm.tmc.edu                                           Richard Miller
segercra [at] cc.helsinki.fi                                Mikael Segercrantz
rkerman [at] mail.bright.net                                    Richard Kerman
pbern7 [at] earthlink.net                                       Paul Bernhardt
msoysal [at] mistik.express.net                            Mustafa Soysal MS57
skurz [at] norfolk.infi.net                                         Steve Kurz
Martin [at] crozet.demon.co.uk                                Martin Nicholson

Abstained
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cdt [at] audiophile.com                                         Chris Trumbore
chris [at] kzim.com                                Christopher Robin Zimmerman

-- 
Neil Crellin, UVV <neilc@stanford.edu>

