From tale@uunet.uu.net Thu Nov 18 11:18:03 1993
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Subject: newgroup misc.legal.moderated moderated
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misc.legal.moderated is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 305:20 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 10 Nov 1993.

Group submission address:   legal@panix.com
Moderator contact address:  legal-request@panix.com (Larry Kolodney)

For your newsgroups file:
misc.legal.moderated	All aspects of law. (Moderated)

The charter, culled from the call for votes:

          Misc.legal.moderated is for the discussion of law and
          legal theory.  It is recognized that these are
          contested terms, and contested terrain, and that law's
          domain varies from country to country.  The group is
          intended to provide a home for well-tempered
          discussions including, but not limited to:

1.   Current developments in the law including but not limited to
     court decisions, legislative enactments, and executive
     actions with legal implications.

2.   The content and effects of existing constitutions, laws, and
     rules of court at all levels: international, multi-national
     (e.g. EEC, EFTA NAFTA), national, state/provincial/
     departmental, and local/communal.

3.   Proposals for changes to the above which have a 'legal'
     content, e.g. technical proposals for changes designed to
     achieve political ends (e.g. draft language for a statute or
     constitutional amendment).

4.   Legal doctrine, legal theory (jurisprudence), and schools of
     legal interpretation and thought.

5.   Legal history, legal sociology and other interdisciplinary
     work of interest to lawyers, judges and/or legal scholars.

6.   Professional ethics and professional discipline of legal
     professionals, both in public and private life, and of their
     associates and matters relating to the role of law and
     lawyers in society.

7.   Posts by practitioners concerning legal problems they have
     encountered that may be of interest to the legal community.

8.   _First-person_ anecdotes and commentary by non-practitioners
     concerning encounters they have had with lawyers, the
     police, the courts or other entities which administer the
     legal system.

9.   Legal education and the type, quantity, and terms of
     employment for lawyers and other legal professionals.

10.  Posts (including those from non-lawyers) asking specific
     factual questions as to the content of the law, and replies
     to those posts, so long as the context of the exchange makes
     it clear that **legal advice is not being provided**.

11.  Posts by persons seeking legal advice, or seeking to engage
     a lawyer, which are to be replied to by private e-mail.
     Such persons are reminded in advance that legal advice
     obtained via email is inherently unreliable, and is almost
     never a good substitute for direct consultation with an
     attorney.

12.  Legal humor.

The ordering above is for convenience only and does not reflect a
preference ordering among the various topics.


The role of the Moderator
=========================

13.  Although no legal relationships are created by this
     document, the moderator is expected to behave as if she or
     he were in a fiduciary relationship with persons reading and
     posting to the group.

14.  Posts by persons offering legal advice for remuneration will
     not be permitted.  The moderator will enforce this rule.
     This rule is not intended to prevent individuals from
     publicizing the existence of non-profit advocacy
     organizations which provide legal counseling and
     representation.

15.  The moderator will use his or her discretion to decide when
     discussions drift too far from 'legal' content, and will
     close threads accordingly.  The moderator will notify the
     group when taking such actions.  The moderator will request
     voluntary compliance before taking such actions.

16.  The moderator will be encouraged to return posts to senders,
     perhaps with a suggestion of a more appropriate newsgroup,
     if the posts are those that he or she believes more properly
     belong in another newsgroup.  It is intended that the
     moderator will use this discretion more aggressively when
     there exists another group in which the thread appears to
     belong.

17.  Posts that deal with general questions of social policy are
     disfavored unless they make specific reference to particular
     laws, legal doctrines or jurisprudential theories implicated
     by the topic.  Similarly, discussions of general political
     issues are disfavored unless they are informed by reference
     to specific legal aspects of such issues.  The moderator
     will enforce this rule.

18.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts
     containing factual assertions about the current state of the
     law (as opposed to why the law should be changed) which the
     moderator believes are plainly inaccurate.  The failure of
     the moderator to exercise this discretion does not signify
     the moderator's agreement with or approval of the post, and
     is in no way to be seen as the moderator's endorsement of
     any legal conclusion or opinion expressed in that post.
     This moderator is encouraged to use this discretion in a
     manner that permits a wide range of colorable arguments to
     be presented.

19.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts which are
     unduly repetitive and/or contain personal attacks on
     previous writers.  The failure of the moderator to exercise
     this discretion does not signify the moderator's agreement
     with or approval of the post, and is in no way to be seen as
     the moderator's endorsement of any legal conclusion or
     opinion expressed in that post.

Moderator Selection and Replacement
===================================

20.  A moderator serves until she or he resigns.  A moderator may
     resign at any time.  The moderator is requested to give the
     group adequate notice in order to ensure an orderly
     transition.

21.  The moderator may designate a substitute moderator to serve
     for periods of not more than four consecutive weeks.  The
     moderator will not designate substitutes for more than two
     months per calendar year.

22.  A sole moderator may appoint a co-moderator.  Co-moderators
     may appoint additional co-moderators, if all serving
     moderators consent, so long as no more than five moderators
     are active at any one time.  Moderators may share their
     duties in any manner mutually acceptable.  Differences among
     the moderators shall be settled by majority vote, or in
     cases of tie, by lot, or by other means acceptable to all
     the moderators.  In the event that the group has multiple
     moderators, all references to a sole moderator in the above
     paragraphs shall apply to all the moderators, collectively
     if the context permits.

23.  A resigning moderator, whether or not she/he is a sole
     moderator, selects his/her successor.  Moderators are
     requested to consider the opinions of readers of the group
     when choosing their successors. A resigning co-moderator
     may, with the unanimous consent of the other moderators,
     choose not to appoint a successor.


Amending This Charter
=====================

24.  This charter can be amended at any time, by following the
     procedures then in effect for newsgroup creation.

From tale@uunet.uu.net Tue Dec  7 11:18:04 1993
Control: newgroup misc.legal.moderated moderated
Newsgroups: misc.legal.moderated
Path: uunet!tale
From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Subject: newgroup misc.legal.moderated moderated
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 15:30:12 GMT
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misc.legal.moderated is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 305:20 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 10 Nov 1993.

Group submission address:   legal@panix.com
Moderator contact address:  legal-request@panix.com (Larry Kolodney)

For your newsgroups file:
misc.legal.moderated	All aspects of law. (Moderated)

The charter, culled from the call for votes:

          Misc.legal.moderated is for the discussion of law and
          legal theory.  It is recognized that these are
          contested terms, and contested terrain, and that law's
          domain varies from country to country.  The group is
          intended to provide a home for well-tempered
          discussions including, but not limited to:

1.   Current developments in the law including but not limited to
     court decisions, legislative enactments, and executive
     actions with legal implications.

2.   The content and effects of existing constitutions, laws, and
     rules of court at all levels: international, multi-national
     (e.g. EEC, EFTA NAFTA), national, state/provincial/
     departmental, and local/communal.

3.   Proposals for changes to the above which have a 'legal'
     content, e.g. technical proposals for changes designed to
     achieve political ends (e.g. draft language for a statute or
     constitutional amendment).

4.   Legal doctrine, legal theory (jurisprudence), and schools of
     legal interpretation and thought.

5.   Legal history, legal sociology and other interdisciplinary
     work of interest to lawyers, judges and/or legal scholars.

6.   Professional ethics and professional discipline of legal
     professionals, both in public and private life, and of their
     associates and matters relating to the role of law and
     lawyers in society.

7.   Posts by practitioners concerning legal problems they have
     encountered that may be of interest to the legal community.

8.   _First-person_ anecdotes and commentary by non-practitioners
     concerning encounters they have had with lawyers, the
     police, the courts or other entities which administer the
     legal system.

9.   Legal education and the type, quantity, and terms of
     employment for lawyers and other legal professionals.

10.  Posts (including those from non-lawyers) asking specific
     factual questions as to the content of the law, and replies
     to those posts, so long as the context of the exchange makes
     it clear that **legal advice is not being provided**.

11.  Posts by persons seeking legal advice, or seeking to engage
     a lawyer, which are to be replied to by private e-mail.
     Such persons are reminded in advance that legal advice
     obtained via email is inherently unreliable, and is almost
     never a good substitute for direct consultation with an
     attorney.

12.  Legal humor.

The ordering above is for convenience only and does not reflect a
preference ordering among the various topics.


The role of the Moderator
=========================

13.  Although no legal relationships are created by this
     document, the moderator is expected to behave as if she or
     he were in a fiduciary relationship with persons reading and
     posting to the group.

14.  Posts by persons offering legal advice for remuneration will
     not be permitted.  The moderator will enforce this rule.
     This rule is not intended to prevent individuals from
     publicizing the existence of non-profit advocacy
     organizations which provide legal counseling and
     representation.

15.  The moderator will use his or her discretion to decide when
     discussions drift too far from 'legal' content, and will
     close threads accordingly.  The moderator will notify the
     group when taking such actions.  The moderator will request
     voluntary compliance before taking such actions.

16.  The moderator will be encouraged to return posts to senders,
     perhaps with a suggestion of a more appropriate newsgroup,
     if the posts are those that he or she believes more properly
     belong in another newsgroup.  It is intended that the
     moderator will use this discretion more aggressively when
     there exists another group in which the thread appears to
     belong.

17.  Posts that deal with general questions of social policy are
     disfavored unless they make specific reference to particular
     laws, legal doctrines or jurisprudential theories implicated
     by the topic.  Similarly, discussions of general political
     issues are disfavored unless they are informed by reference
     to specific legal aspects of such issues.  The moderator
     will enforce this rule.

18.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts
     containing factual assertions about the current state of the
     law (as opposed to why the law should be changed) which the
     moderator believes are plainly inaccurate.  The failure of
     the moderator to exercise this discretion does not signify
     the moderator's agreement with or approval of the post, and
     is in no way to be seen as the moderator's endorsement of
     any legal conclusion or opinion expressed in that post.
     This moderator is encouraged to use this discretion in a
     manner that permits a wide range of colorable arguments to
     be presented.

19.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts which are
     unduly repetitive and/or contain personal attacks on
     previous writers.  The failure of the moderator to exercise
     this discretion does not signify the moderator's agreement
     with or approval of the post, and is in no way to be seen as
     the moderator's endorsement of any legal conclusion or
     opinion expressed in that post.

Moderator Selection and Replacement
===================================

20.  A moderator serves until she or he resigns.  A moderator may
     resign at any time.  The moderator is requested to give the
     group adequate notice in order to ensure an orderly
     transition.

21.  The moderator may designate a substitute moderator to serve
     for periods of not more than four consecutive weeks.  The
     moderator will not designate substitutes for more than two
     months per calendar year.

22.  A sole moderator may appoint a co-moderator.  Co-moderators
     may appoint additional co-moderators, if all serving
     moderators consent, so long as no more than five moderators
     are active at any one time.  Moderators may share their
     duties in any manner mutually acceptable.  Differences among
     the moderators shall be settled by majority vote, or in
     cases of tie, by lot, or by other means acceptable to all
     the moderators.  In the event that the group has multiple
     moderators, all references to a sole moderator in the above
     paragraphs shall apply to all the moderators, collectively
     if the context permits.

23.  A resigning moderator, whether or not she/he is a sole
     moderator, selects his/her successor.  Moderators are
     requested to consider the opinions of readers of the group
     when choosing their successors. A resigning co-moderator
     may, with the unanimous consent of the other moderators,
     choose not to appoint a successor.


Amending This Charter
=====================

24.  This charter can be amended at any time, by following the
     procedures then in effect for newsgroup creation.

From tale@uunet.uu.net Fri Aug 19 13:11:22 1994
Control: newgroup misc.legal.moderated moderated
Newsgroups: misc.legal.moderated
Path: uunet!tale
From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Subject: newgroup misc.legal.moderated moderated
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 17:11:48 GMT
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misc.legal.moderated is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 305:20 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 10 Nov 1993.

Group submission address:   legal@panix.com
Moderator contact address:  legal-request@panix.com (Larry Kolodney)

For your newsgroups file:
misc.legal.moderated	All aspects of law. (Moderated)

The charter, culled from the call for votes:

          Misc.legal.moderated is for the discussion of law and
          legal theory.  It is recognized that these are
          contested terms, and contested terrain, and that law's
          domain varies from country to country.  The group is
          intended to provide a home for well-tempered
          discussions including, but not limited to:

1.   Current developments in the law including but not limited to
     court decisions, legislative enactments, and executive
     actions with legal implications.

2.   The content and effects of existing constitutions, laws, and
     rules of court at all levels: international, multi-national
     (e.g. EEC, EFTA NAFTA), national, state/provincial/
     departmental, and local/communal.

3.   Proposals for changes to the above which have a 'legal'
     content, e.g. technical proposals for changes designed to
     achieve political ends (e.g. draft language for a statute or
     constitutional amendment).

4.   Legal doctrine, legal theory (jurisprudence), and schools of
     legal interpretation and thought.

5.   Legal history, legal sociology and other interdisciplinary
     work of interest to lawyers, judges and/or legal scholars.

6.   Professional ethics and professional discipline of legal
     professionals, both in public and private life, and of their
     associates and matters relating to the role of law and
     lawyers in society.

7.   Posts by practitioners concerning legal problems they have
     encountered that may be of interest to the legal community.

8.   _First-person_ anecdotes and commentary by non-practitioners
     concerning encounters they have had with lawyers, the
     police, the courts or other entities which administer the
     legal system.

9.   Legal education and the type, quantity, and terms of
     employment for lawyers and other legal professionals.

10.  Posts (including those from non-lawyers) asking specific
     factual questions as to the content of the law, and replies
     to those posts, so long as the context of the exchange makes
     it clear that **legal advice is not being provided**.

11.  Posts by persons seeking legal advice, or seeking to engage
     a lawyer, which are to be replied to by private e-mail.
     Such persons are reminded in advance that legal advice
     obtained via email is inherently unreliable, and is almost
     never a good substitute for direct consultation with an
     attorney.

12.  Legal humor.

The ordering above is for convenience only and does not reflect a
preference ordering among the various topics.


The role of the Moderator
=========================

13.  Although no legal relationships are created by this
     document, the moderator is expected to behave as if she or
     he were in a fiduciary relationship with persons reading and
     posting to the group.

14.  Posts by persons offering legal advice for remuneration will
     not be permitted.  The moderator will enforce this rule.
     This rule is not intended to prevent individuals from
     publicizing the existence of non-profit advocacy
     organizations which provide legal counseling and
     representation.

15.  The moderator will use his or her discretion to decide when
     discussions drift too far from 'legal' content, and will
     close threads accordingly.  The moderator will notify the
     group when taking such actions.  The moderator will request
     voluntary compliance before taking such actions.

16.  The moderator will be encouraged to return posts to senders,
     perhaps with a suggestion of a more appropriate newsgroup,
     if the posts are those that he or she believes more properly
     belong in another newsgroup.  It is intended that the
     moderator will use this discretion more aggressively when
     there exists another group in which the thread appears to
     belong.

17.  Posts that deal with general questions of social policy are
     disfavored unless they make specific reference to particular
     laws, legal doctrines or jurisprudential theories implicated
     by the topic.  Similarly, discussions of general political
     issues are disfavored unless they are informed by reference
     to specific legal aspects of such issues.  The moderator
     will enforce this rule.

18.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts
     containing factual assertions about the current state of the
     law (as opposed to why the law should be changed) which the
     moderator believes are plainly inaccurate.  The failure of
     the moderator to exercise this discretion does not signify
     the moderator's agreement with or approval of the post, and
     is in no way to be seen as the moderator's endorsement of
     any legal conclusion or opinion expressed in that post.
     This moderator is encouraged to use this discretion in a
     manner that permits a wide range of colorable arguments to
     be presented.

19.  The moderator will have discretion to reject posts which are
     unduly repetitive and/or contain personal attacks on
     previous writers.  The failure of the moderator to exercise
     this discretion does not signify the moderator's agreement
     with or approval of the post, and is in no way to be seen as
     the moderator's endorsement of any legal conclusion or
     opinion expressed in that post.

Moderator Selection and Replacement
===================================

20.  A moderator serves until she or he resigns.  A moderator may
     resign at any time.  The moderator is requested to give the
     group adequate notice in order to ensure an orderly
     transition.

21.  The moderator may designate a substitute moderator to serve
     for periods of not more than four consecutive weeks.  The
     moderator will not designate substitutes for more than two
     months per calendar year.

22.  A sole moderator may appoint a co-moderator.  Co-moderators
     may appoint additional co-moderators, if all serving
     moderators consent, so long as no more than five moderators
     are active at any one time.  Moderators may share their
     duties in any manner mutually acceptable.  Differences among
     the moderators shall be settled by majority vote, or in
     cases of tie, by lot, or by other means acceptable to all
     the moderators.  In the event that the group has multiple
     moderators, all references to a sole moderator in the above
     paragraphs shall apply to all the moderators, collectively
     if the context permits.

23.  A resigning moderator, whether or not she/he is a sole
     moderator, selects his/her successor.  Moderators are
     requested to consider the opinions of readers of the group
     when choosing their successors. A resigning co-moderator
     may, with the unanimous consent of the other moderators,
     choose not to appoint a successor.


Amending This Charter
=====================

24.  This charter can be amended at any time, by following the
     procedures then in effect for newsgroup creation.

