From BBlackmoor@sff.net Wed Feb 16 06:26:41 2000
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From: Brandon Blackmoor <BBlackmoor@sff.net>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.games.frp.misc
Subject: RFD: rec.games.frp.moderated moderated
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
               moderated group rec.games.frp.moderated

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
moderated group in the rec.games.frp.* hierarchy. This is not a Call
for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are
below.

Newsgroup line:
rec.games.frp.moderated	Role-playing game discussion. (Moderated)

RATIONALE: rec.games.frp.moderated

For the calendar year 1999, the traffic in rec.games.frp.misc averaged
145 articles posted per day (data courtesy of deja.com).

Jan 1999     4369
Feb 1999     4498
Mar 1999     5016
Apr 1999     6209
May 1999     4821
Jun 1999     3955
Jul 1999     2488
Aug 1999     4338
Sep 1999     5074
Oct 1999     5670
Nov 1999     3764
Dec 1999     2866

Total/yr.:  53068
Average/mo.: 4422
Average/day:  145

Of this number, less than 35% bear any relevance to the discussion of
role-playing and role-playing games as outlined in the Charter. This
estimate is based on threads posted to rec.games.frp.misc during the
first two weeks of January, 2000:

Threads to which articles were posted to rec.games.frp.misc between
1.Jan.2000 to 13.Jan.2000, inclusive: 115

On-topic threads:                      88
Off-topic threads:                     27
On-topic articles:                   1118
Off-topic articles:                  2039
% of off-topic articles:               65%

The rest consist primarily of arguments about highly contentious but
entirely off-topic subjects, ranging from religion and atheism to
economic theory, combined with a generous helping of personal attacks,
often in the form of an entire series of recursively quoted articles
with a single-word profanity or insult attached. These diversions
often derail previously on-topic threads. This is not a recent
phenomenon; a sample from any month in the last few years reveals the
same pattern. The result is that rec.games.frp.misc is rendered
unreadable to numerous people who would like to use it for its
chartered purpose.

To help those who would prefer a higher signal-to-noise ratio, we
propose rec.games.frp.moderated. Our proposal is not an attempt to
moderate or replace rec.games.frp.misc. The rec.games.frp.moderated
newsgroup will offer an alternative for those whose only current
option is to leave.

CHARTER: rec.games.frp.moderated

rec.games.frp.moderated is a moderated newsgroup for discussion of
"tabletop" or "pen & paper" role-playing games (as opposed to first
person computer adventure games, often called "roleplaying games",
which are covered in the rec.games.computer hierarchy). This includes
discussion of roleplay gaming in general and the discussion of those
specific role-playing games that do not have their own moderated
newsgroup.

Typical examples of appropriate topics:

1. Discussion of a recently released or revised tabletop role-
   playing game (e.g. Nobilis, Aberrant).
1. Discussion of a popular or obscure tabletop role-playing
   game (e.g. Star Wars, Tales From the Floating Vagabond).
3. Discussion of a specific role-playing setting or scenario
   (e.g. Forgotten Realms, the Complete Masks of Nyarlathotep).
4. Discussion of techniques used to enhance the role-playing
   experience (e.g. how to encourage cooperation among rivals,
   dealing with problematic players).

Typical examples of inappropriate topics:

1. Discussion of so-called computer role-playing games (e.g. Torment,
   Baldur's Gate).
2. Discussion of real-world controversies (e.g. religion, economics,
   law), unless the discussion centers materially on their
   applicability to a role-playing game or setting.
3. Announcements of non-relevant Web pages or services.

Typical examples of articles that may be rejected regardless of
their topic:

1. Articles which aren't primarily text in a human-readable standard
   alphabet (e.g. large binaries, HTML). Appending a digital
   signature (e.g. a PGP signature) is acceptable, but posting
   encryption keys in their entirety is not.
2. Harassing or personally abusive articles (i.e. articles intended
   not to further the discussion, but merely to denigrate or vilify
   another person).
3. "Spam" (e.g. excessively cross-posted articles, articles posted
   as separate copies to many newsgroups, duplicate/rapidly
   reposted messages, chain letters).
4. Articles containing excessive quoted content, or significantly
   more quoted than new content.
5. Articles that don't comply with the relevant RFCs (e.g. articles
   with no subject, articles that contain security exploits).

Topics pertaining exclusively to specific role-playing systems should
be discussed in moderated newsgroups devoted to those specific
systems, if such newsgroups exist. Discussions which merely include or
expand to include specific game system are on-topic.

Cultural meta-discussions are welcome on rec.games.frp.moderated as
long as they are materially relevant to role-play gaming.

Moderation policies:

The newsgroup will be moderated by a moderation team consisting of
three or more moderators (an odd number is preferred, but not
required). One or more of the moderators will be tasked with the
technical administration of the moderation software. The technical
moderator(s) will inform the moderation team of any substantive
changes to the moderation software.

New or replacement moderators will be selected from among
rec.games.frp.moderated volunteers at the discretion of the moderation
team. The ideal attributes moderators should have are:

1. Patience.
2. A sense of humor.
3. Good manners.
4. Impartiality.
5. A love for role-playing, gaming, and creativity in general.
6. A reluctance to exclude users and/or topics.
7. The ability to operate the moderation software.

Moderators may be removed by a 2/3 majority of the moderation team, or
may resign of their own volition at any time. If a moderator wants to
retire from the moderation team, they should make a public statement
at least one month prior to retirement so that a replacement moderator
might be found.

A list of trusted users whose articles no longer require human
moderation may be implemented by the moderation team, for those users
who have demonstrated consistent adherence to the Charter. If a
trusted user later attempts to post articles that do not adhere to the
Charter, they may be removed from the trusted list.

Specific users and/or article topics may be flagged for moderator
attention if deemed necessary by the moderation team. Continued
egregious Charter violations may result in an exclusion list of users
and/or article topics being implemented by the moderation team.

The purpose of a trusted list and an exclusion list, if such are
implemented, will not be to penalize or reward any individual. If they
are implemented, their purpose will be to keep moderation and the
effort it requires as minimal as possible while preserving a useful
environment.

The moderators may append footnotes to posted articles, and may modify
article headers as required by the relevant RFCs and the Charter.
Other than appending a footer or modifying headers, the moderators
will not modify the content of a posted article.

Unapproved or accidently approved articles may be cancelled at the
discretion of the moderation team.

Subscribers to rec.games.frp.moderated can appeal the rejection of the
articles they submit by sending e-mail to the moderation team. The
appeal must clearly explain why the author deems the moderation team
decision to reject her article to be in disagreement with the Charter.
The same e-mail address is to be used for questions and complaints
regarding the moderation policy. Further details will be available in
the Administrative Statement.

The current moderation procedures and policies will be described in an
Administrative Statement (AdminFAQ), which will be maintained by the
moderation team. The Charter and AdminFAQ will each be posted to the
group whenever it changes, and at least once per month.

Additionally, first-time posters may be e-mailed a copy of the
newsgroup FAQ.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: rec.games.frp.moderated

Moderator:  Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@killfile.org>

News Administrator for the Center for Reliable and High-Performance
Computing, role-player.

Moderator:  Frank J. Perricone <hawthorn@sover.net>

Computer programmer and currently head of MIS for the State of Vermont
Department of Liquor Control, role-player.

Moderator:  Mark Hughes <kamikaze@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu>

Freelance Java game programmer, role-player.

Moderator:  David Crowe <jetman@primenet.com>

Anime afficionado, role-player.

Moderator:  Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@sff.net>

Web designer, role-player.

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  Please do not
attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroup(s):

  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.games.frp.announce,
  rec.games.frp.misc

and the following mailing list(s):

  rgfm@onelist.com (r.g.f.moderated exploratory committee)
          Subcribe via: rgfm-subscribe@onelist.com

Proponent: Mark Arsenault <goldrushg@aol.com>
Proponent: Bruce Baugh <bruce-baugh@sff.net>
Proponent: Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@sff.net>
Proponent: David "No Nickname" Crowe <jetman@primenet.com>
Proponent: Chris Halliday <otherchris@erols.com>
Proponent: Mark Hughes <kamikaze@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu>
Proponent: Frank J. Perricone <hawthorn@sover.net>
Proponent: Siobhan Perricone <astarte@sover.net>
Proponent: Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@killfile.org>
Proponent: Alexander Williams <thantos@gw.total-web.net>

From BBlackmoor@sff.net Mon Feb 21 19:41:11 2000
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Brandon Blackmoor <BBlackmoor@sff.net>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.games.frp.misc
Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.games.frp.moderated moderated
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <951191015.3833@isc.org>
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Archive-Name: rec.games.frp.moderated
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 03:43:35 GMT
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Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:11359 news.groups:345182 rec.games.frp.misc:246218

                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
               moderated group rec.games.frp.moderated

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
moderated group in the rec.games.frp.* hierarchy. This is not a Call
for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are
below.

Newsgroup line:
rec.games.frp.moderated	Role-playing game discussion. (Moderated)

RATIONALE: rec.games.frp.moderated

For the calendar year 1999, the traffic in rec.games.frp.misc averaged
145 articles posted per day (data courtesy of deja.com).

Jan 1999     4369
Feb 1999     4498
Mar 1999     5016
Apr 1999     6209
May 1999     4821
Jun 1999     3955
Jul 1999     2488
Aug 1999     4338
Sep 1999     5074
Oct 1999     5670
Nov 1999     3764
Dec 1999     2866

Total/yr.:  53068
Average/mo.: 4422
Average/day:  145

Of this number, less than 35% bear any relevance to the discussion of
role-playing and role-playing games as outlined in the Charter. This
estimate is based on threads posted to rec.games.frp.misc during the
first two weeks of January, 2000:

Threads to which articles were posted to rec.games.frp.misc between
1.Jan.2000 to 13.Jan.2000, inclusive: 115

On-topic threads:                      88
Off-topic threads:                     27
On-topic articles:                   1118
Off-topic articles:                  2039
% of off-topic articles:               65%

The rest consist primarily of arguments about highly contentious but
entirely off-topic subjects, ranging from religion and atheism to
economic theory, combined with a generous helping of personal attacks,
often in the form of an entire series of recursively quoted articles
with a single-word profanity or insult attached. These diversions
often derail previously on-topic threads. This is not a recent
phenomenon; a sample from any month in the last few years reveals the
same pattern. The result is that rec.games.frp.misc is rendered
unreadable to numerous people who would like to use it for its
chartered purpose.

To help those who would prefer a higher signal-to-noise ratio, we
propose rec.games.frp.moderated. Our proposal is not an attempt to
moderate or replace rec.games.frp.misc. The rec.games.frp.moderated
newsgroup will offer an alternative for those whose only current
option is to leave.

CHARTER: rec.games.frp.moderated

rec.games.frp.moderated is a moderated newsgroup for discussion of
human-moderated "tabletop" or "pen & paper" role-playing games.
"Computer role-playing games", which involve play against the software
itself without a human moderator, are covered in the
rec.games.computer hierarchy. The purpose of rec.games.frp.moderated
includes discussion of role-play gaming in general and the discussion
of those specific role-playing systems and topics that do not have
their own newsgroup.

Typical examples of appropriate topics:

1. Discussion of a recently released or revised tabletop role-
   playing game.
2. Discussion of a popular or obscure tabletop role-playing
   game (e.g. Star Wars, Tales From the Floating Vagabond).
3. Discussion of a specific role-playing setting or scenario
   (e.g. Forgotten Realms, the Complete Masks of Nyarlathotep).
4. Discussion of techniques used to enhance the role-playing
   experience (e.g. how to encourage cooperation among rivals,
   dealing with problematic players).

Typical examples of inappropriate topics:

1. Discussion of computer adventure games where the interaction
   or conflict is not moderated by human beings, but by scripted
   activities or algorithms (e.g. Torment, Baldur's Gate).
2. Discussion of real-world controversies (e.g. religion, economics,
   law), unless the discussion centers materially on their
   applicability to a role-playing game or setting.
3. Announcements of non-relevant Web pages or services.

Typical examples of articles that may be rejected regardless of
their topic:

1. Articles which aren't primarily text in a human-readable standard
   alphabet (e.g. large binaries, HTML). Appending a digital
   signature (e.g. a PGP signature) is acceptable, but posting
   encryption keys in their entirety is not.
2. Harassing or personally abusive articles (i.e. articles intended
   not to further the discussion, but merely to denigrate or vilify
   another person).
3. "Spam" (e.g. excessively cross-posted articles, articles posted
   as separate copies to many newsgroups, duplicate/rapidly
   reposted messages, chain letters).
4. Articles containing excessive quoted content, or significantly
   more quoted than new content.
5. Articles that don't comply with the relevant RFCs (e.g. articles
   with no subject, articles that contain security exploits). "Spam-
   blockers" are a special case, and are addressed in the
   Administrative Statement.

Topics pertaining exclusively to specific role-playing systems or
topics should be discussed in newsgroups devoted to those
specific systems or topics, if such newsgroups exist. Discussions
which merely include or expand to include a specific game system or
topic are on-topic in rec.games.frp.moderated.

Cultural meta-discussions are welcome on rec.games.frp.moderated as
long as they are materially relevant to role-play gaming.

Moderation policies:

The newsgroup will be moderated by a moderation team consisting of
three or more moderators (an odd number is preferred, but not
required). One or more of the moderators will be tasked with the
technical administration of the moderation software. The technical
moderator(s) will inform the moderation team of any substantive
changes to the moderation software.

The moderators have their own opinions on many aspects of gaming. They
will participate in the newsgroup as individuals. They will not
moderate their own posts, and when they speak as moderators they will
clearly indicate so. They undertake to distinguish their personal
views from what the charter and moderation policy state, and to
evaluate articles based on the latter rather than the former.

New or replacement moderators will be selected from among
rec.games.frp.moderated volunteers at the discretion of the moderation
team. In addition to a familiarity with the general subject of the
newsgroup, the ideal attributes moderators should have are:

1. Patience.
2. A sense of humor.
3. Good manners.
4. Impartiality.
5. A love for role-playing, gaming, and creativity in general.
6. A reluctance to exclude users and/or topics.
7. The ability to operate the moderation software.

Moderators may be removed by a 2/3 majority of the moderation team, or
may resign of their own volition at any time. If a moderator wants to
retire from the moderation team, they should make a public statement
at least one month prior to retirement so that a replacement moderator
might be found.

A list of trusted users whose articles no longer require human
moderation may be implemented by the moderation team, for those users
who have demonstrated consistent adherence to the Charter. If a
trusted user later attempts to post articles that do not adhere to the
Charter, they may be removed from the trusted list.

Specific users and/or article topics may be flagged for moderator
attention if deemed necessary by the moderation team. Continued
egregious Charter violations may result in an exclusion list of users
and/or article topics being implemented by the moderation team.

The purpose of a trusted list and an exclusion list, if such are
implemented, will not be to penalize or reward any individual. If they
are implemented, their purpose will be to keep moderation and the
effort it requires as minimal as possible while preserving a useful
environment.

The moderators may append footnotes to posted articles, and may modify
article headers as required by the relevant RFCs and the Charter.
Other than appending a footer or modifying headers, the moderators
will not modify the content of a posted article.

Unapproved or accidently approved articles may be cancelled at the
discretion of the moderation team.

Subscribers to rec.games.frp.moderated can appeal the rejection of the
articles they submit by sending e-mail to the moderation team. The
appeal must clearly explain why the author deems the moderation team
decision to reject the article to be in disagreement with the Charter.
The same e-mail address is to be used for questions and complaints
regarding the moderation policy. Further details will be available in
the Administrative Statement.

The current moderation procedures and policies will be described in an
Administrative Statement (AdminFAQ), which will be maintained by the
moderation team. The Charter and AdminFAQ will each be posted to the
group whenever it changes, and at least once per month.

Additionally, first-time posters may be e-mailed a copy of the
newsgroup FAQ.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: rec.games.frp.moderated

Moderator:  Bruce Baugh <bruce-baugh@sff.net>

Founding moderator of comp.os.ms-windows.win95.moderated; role-player.

Moderator:  Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@sff.net>

Web designer; role-player.

Moderator:  David Bolack <dbolack@galstar.com>

Veteran Fidonet moderator; small press publisher.

Moderator:  Deird'Re M. Brooks <xenya@teleport.com>

RPG freelance author; Fading Suns, Trinity, and Aberrant Listowner;
role-player.

Moderator:  David Crowe <jetman@primenet.com>

Anime afficionado; role-player.

Moderator:  James Kiley <tenzil@io.com>

RPG freelance author; IT consultant; role-player.

Moderator:  Frank J. Perricone <hawthorn@sover.net>

Computer programmer and currently head of MIS for the State of Vermont
Department of Liquor Control; role-player.

Moderator:  Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@killfile.org>

News Administrator for the Center for Reliable and High-Performance
Computing; role-player.

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  Please do not
attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroup(s):

  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.games.frp.announce,
  rec.games.frp.misc

and the following mailing list(s):

  rgfm@onelist.com (r.g.f.moderated exploratory committee)
          Subcribe via: rgfm-subscribe@onelist.com

Proponent: Mark Arsenault <goldrushg@aol.com>
Proponent: Bruce Baugh <bruce-baugh@sff.net>
Proponent: Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@sff.net>
Proponent: David Bolack <dbolack@galstar.com>
Proponent: Deird'Re M. Brooks <xenya@teleport.com>
Proponent: David Crowe <jetman@primenet.com>
Proponent: Chris Halliday <otherchris@erols.com>
Proponent: Mark Hughes <kamikaze@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu>
Proponent: James Kiley <tenzil@io.com>
Proponent: Frank J. Perricone <hawthorn@sover.net>
Proponent: Siobhan Perricone <astarte@sover.net>
Proponent: Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@killfile.org>
Proponent: Alexander Williams <thantos@gw.total-web.net>

From BBlackmoor@sff.net Tue Mar  7 04:11:05 2000
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Brandon Blackmoor <BBlackmoor@sff.net>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.games.frp.misc,rec.games.frp.announce
Subject: 3rd RFD: rec.games.frp.moderated moderated
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <952431135.28290@isc.org>
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Archive-Name: rec.games.frp.moderated
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 12:12:15 GMT
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Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:11383 news.groups:346586 rec.games.frp.misc:247453 rec.games.frp.announce:6023

                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
               moderated group rec.games.frp.moderated

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
moderated group in the rec.games.frp.* hierarchy. This is not a Call
for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are
below.

Newsgroup line:
rec.games.frp.moderated	Role-playing game discussion. (Moderated)

CHANGES from previous RFD:

This sentence in RFD 2.0:
"The purpose of rec.games.frp.moderated includes discussion of role-play
gaming in general and the discussion of those specific role-playing games
that do not have their own moderated newsgroup."

was replaced with this sentence in RFD 3.0:
"The purpose of rec.games.frp.moderated includes discussion of role-play
gaming in general and the discussion of those specific role-playing systems
and topics that do not have their own newsgroup."

RATIONALE: rec.games.frp.moderated

For the calendar year 1999, the traffic in rec.games.frp.misc averaged
145 articles posted per day (data courtesy of deja.com).

Jan 1999     4369
Feb 1999     4498
Mar 1999     5016
Apr 1999     6209
May 1999     4821
Jun 1999     3955
Jul 1999     2488
Aug 1999     4338
Sep 1999     5074
Oct 1999     5670
Nov 1999     3764
Dec 1999     2866

Total/yr.:  53068
Average/mo.: 4422
Average/day:  145

Of this number, less than 35% bear any relevance to the discussion of
role-playing and role-playing games as outlined in the Charter. This
estimate is based on threads posted to rec.games.frp.misc during the
first two weeks of January, 2000:

Threads to which articles were posted to rec.games.frp.misc between
1.Jan.2000 to 13.Jan.2000, inclusive: 115

On-topic threads:                      88
Off-topic threads:                     27
On-topic articles:                   1118
Off-topic articles:                  2039
% of off-topic articles:               65%

The rest consist primarily of arguments about highly contentious but
entirely off-topic subjects, ranging from religion and atheism to
economic theory, combined with a generous helping of personal attacks,
often in the form of an entire series of recursively quoted articles
with a single-word profanity or insult attached. These diversions
often derail previously on-topic threads. This is not a recent
phenomenon; a sample from any month in the last few years reveals the
same pattern. The result is that rec.games.frp.misc is rendered
unreadable to numerous people who would like to use it for its
chartered purpose.

To help those who would prefer a higher signal-to-noise ratio, we
propose rec.games.frp.moderated. Our proposal is not an attempt to
moderate or replace rec.games.frp.misc. The rec.games.frp.moderated
newsgroup will offer an alternative for those whose only current
option is to leave.

CHARTER: rec.games.frp.moderated

rec.games.frp.moderated is a moderated newsgroup for discussion of
human-moderated "tabletop" or "pen & paper" role-playing games.
"Computer role-playing games", which involve play against the software
itself without a human moderator, are covered in the
rec.games.computer hierarchy. The purpose of rec.games.frp.moderated
includes discussion of role-play gaming in general and the discussion
of those specific role-playing systems and topics that do not have
their own newsgroup.

Typical examples of appropriate topics:

1. Discussion of a recently released or revised tabletop role-
   playing game.
2. Discussion of a popular or obscure tabletop role-playing
   game (e.g. Star Wars, Tales From the Floating Vagabond).
3. Discussion of a specific role-playing setting or scenario
   (e.g. Forgotten Realms, the Complete Masks of Nyarlathotep).
4. Discussion of techniques used to enhance the role-playing
   experience (e.g. how to encourage cooperation among rivals,
   dealing with problematic players).

Typical examples of inappropriate topics:

1. Discussion of computer adventure games where the interaction
   or conflict is not moderated by human beings, but by scripted
   activities or algorithms (e.g. Torment, Baldur's Gate).
2. Discussion of real-world controversies (e.g. religion, economics,
   law), unless the discussion centers materially on their
   applicability to a role-playing game or setting.
3. Announcements of non-relevant Web pages or services.

Typical examples of articles that may be rejected regardless of
their topic:

1. Articles which aren't primarily text in a human-readable standard
   alphabet (e.g. large binaries, HTML). Appending a digital
   signature (e.g. a PGP signature) is acceptable, but posting
   encryption keys in their entirety is not.
2. Harassing or personally abusive articles (i.e. articles intended
   not to further the discussion, but merely to denigrate or vilify
   another person).
3. "Spam" (e.g. excessively cross-posted articles, articles posted
   as separate copies to many newsgroups, duplicate/rapidly
   reposted messages, chain letters).
4. Articles containing excessive quoted content, or significantly
   more quoted than new content.
5. Articles that don't comply with the relevant RFCs (e.g. articles
   with no subject, articles that contain security exploits). "Spam-
   blockers" are a special case, and are addressed in the
   Administrative Statement.

Topics pertaining exclusively to specific role-playing systems or
topics should be discussed in newsgroups devoted to those
specific systems or topics, if such newsgroups exist. Discussions
which merely include or expand to include a specific game system or
topic are on-topic in rec.games.frp.moderated.

Cultural meta-discussions are welcome on rec.games.frp.moderated as
long as they are materially relevant to role-play gaming.

Moderation policies:

The newsgroup will be moderated by a moderation team consisting of
three or more moderators (an odd number is preferred, but not
required). One or more of the moderators will be tasked with the
technical administration of the moderation software. The technical
moderator(s) will inform the moderation team of any substantive
changes to the moderation software.

The moderators have their own opinions on many aspects of gaming. They
will participate in the newsgroup as individuals. They will not
moderate their own posts, and when they speak as moderators they will
clearly indicate so. They undertake to distinguish their personal
views from what the charter and moderation policy state, and to
evaluate articles based on the latter rather than the former.

New or replacement moderators will be selected from among
rec.games.frp.moderated volunteers at the discretion of the moderation
team. In addition to a familiarity with the general subject of the
newsgroup, the ideal attributes moderators should have are:

1. Patience.
2. A sense of humor.
3. Good manners.
4. Impartiality.
5. A love for role-playing, gaming, and creativity in general.
6. A reluctance to exclude users and/or topics.
7. The ability to operate the moderation software.

Moderators may be removed by a 2/3 majority of the moderation team, or
may resign of their own volition at any time. If a moderator wants to
retire from the moderation team, they should make a public statement
at least one month prior to retirement so that a replacement moderator
might be found.

A list of trusted users whose articles no longer require human
moderation may be implemented by the moderation team, for those users
who have demonstrated consistent adherence to the Charter. If a
trusted user later attempts to post articles that do not adhere to the
Charter, they may be removed from the trusted list.

Specific users and/or article topics may be flagged for moderator
attention if deemed necessary by the moderation team. Continued
egregious Charter violations may result in an exclusion list of users
and/or article topics being implemented by the moderation team.

The purpose of a trusted list and an exclusion list, if such are
implemented, will not be to penalize or reward any individual. If they
are implemented, their purpose will be to keep moderation and the
effort it requires as minimal as possible while preserving a useful
environment.

The moderators may append footnotes to posted articles, and may modify
article headers as required by the relevant RFCs and the Charter.
Other than appending a footer or modifying headers, the moderators
will not modify the content of a posted article.

Unapproved or accidently approved articles may be cancelled at the
discretion of the moderation team.

Subscribers to rec.games.frp.moderated can appeal the rejection of the
articles they submit by sending e-mail to the moderation team. The
appeal must clearly explain why the author deems the moderation team
decision to reject the article to be in disagreement with the Charter.
The same e-mail address is to be used for questions and complaints
regarding the moderation policy. Further details will be available in
the Administrative Statement.

The current moderation procedures and policies will be described in an
Administrative Statement (AdminFAQ), which will be maintained by the
moderation team. The Charter and AdminFAQ will each be posted to the
group whenever it changes, and at least once per month.

Additionally, first-time posters may be e-mailed a copy of the
newsgroup FAQ.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: rec.games.frp.moderated

Moderator:  Bruce Baugh <bruce-baugh@sff.net>

Founding moderator of comp.os.ms-windows.win95.moderated; role-player.

Moderator:  Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@sff.net>

Web designer; role-player.

Moderator:  David Bolack <dbolack@galstar.com>

Veteran Fidonet moderator; small press publisher.

Moderator:  Deird'Re M. Brooks <xenya@teleport.com>

RPG freelance author; Fading Suns, Trinity, and Aberrant Listowner;
role-player.

Moderator:  David Crowe <jetman@primenet.com>

Anime afficionado; role-player.

Moderator:  James Kiley <tenzil@io.com>

RPG freelance author; IT consultant; role-player.

Moderator:  Frank J. Perricone <hawthorn@sover.net>

Computer programmer and currently head of MIS for the State of Vermont
Department of Liquor Control; role-player.

Moderator:  Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@killfile.org>

News Administrator for the Center for Reliable and High-Performance
Computing; role-player.

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  Please do not
attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroup(s):

  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.games.frp.announce,
  rec.games.frp.misc

and the following mailing list(s):

  rgfm@onelist.com (r.g.f.moderated exploratory committee)
          Subcribe via: rgfm-subscribe@onelist.com

Proponent: Mark Arsenault <goldrushg@aol.com>
Proponent: Bruce Baugh <bruce-baugh@sff.net>
Proponent: Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@sff.net>
Proponent: David Bolack <dbolack@galstar.com>
Proponent: Deird'Re M. Brooks <xenya@teleport.com>
Proponent: David Crowe <jetman@primenet.com>
Proponent: Chris Halliday <otherchris@erols.com>
Proponent: Mark Hughes <kamikaze@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu>
Proponent: James Kiley <tenzil@io.com>
Proponent: Frank J. Perricone <hawthorn@sover.net>
Proponent: Siobhan Perricone <astarte@sover.net>
Proponent: Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@killfile.org>
Proponent: Alexander Williams <thantos@gw.total-web.net>

From neilc@wallaby.cc Tue Apr  4 02:25:49 2000
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin <neilc@wallaby.cc>
Reply-To: voting@uvv.wallaby.cc
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.games.frp.misc,rec.games.frp.announce
Subject: CFV: rec.games.frp.moderated moderated
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <954839799.24192@isc.org>
References: <950710596.22095@isc.org> <951191015.3833@isc.org> <952431135.28290@isc.org>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Expires: 26 Apr 2000 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: rec.games.frp.moderated
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:16:39 GMT
Lines: 347
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:11427 news.groups:353048 rec.games.frp.misc:251467 rec.games.frp.announce:6088

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               moderated group rec.games.frp.moderated

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
rec.games.frp.moderated	Role-playing game discussion. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 25 Apr 2000.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Mark Arsenault <goldrushg@aol.com>
Proponent: Bruce Baugh <bruce-baugh@sff.net>
Proponent: Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@sff.net>
Proponent: David Bolack <dbolack@galstar.com>
Proponent: Deird'Re M. Brooks <xenya@teleport.com>
Proponent: David Crowe <jetman@primenet.com>
Proponent: Chris Halliday <otherchris@erols.com>
Proponent: Mark Hughes <kamikaze@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu>
Proponent: James Kiley <tenzil@io.com>
Proponent: Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@killfile.org>
Proponent: Alexander Williams <thantos@gw.total-web.net>
Votetaker: Neil Crellin <neilc@wallaby.cc>

RATIONALE: rec.games.frp.moderated

For the calendar year 1999, the traffic in rec.games.frp.misc averaged
145 articles posted per day (data courtesy of deja.com).

Jan 1999     4369
Feb 1999     4498
Mar 1999     5016
Apr 1999     6209
May 1999     4821
Jun 1999     3955
Jul 1999     2488
Aug 1999     4338
Sep 1999     5074
Oct 1999     5670
Nov 1999     3764
Dec 1999     2866

Total/yr.:  53068
Average/mo.: 4422
Average/day:  145

Of this number, less than 35% bear any relevance to the discussion of
role-playing and role-playing games as outlined in the Charter. This
estimate is based on threads posted to rec.games.frp.misc during the
first two weeks of January, 2000:

Threads to which articles were posted to rec.games.frp.misc between
1.Jan.2000 to 13.Jan.2000, inclusive: 115

On-topic threads:                      88
Off-topic threads:                     27
On-topic articles:                   1118
Off-topic articles:                  2039
% of off-topic articles:               65%

The rest consist primarily of arguments about highly contentious but
entirely off-topic subjects, ranging from religion and atheism to
economic theory, combined with a generous helping of personal attacks,
often in the form of an entire series of recursively quoted articles
with a single-word profanity or insult attached. These diversions
often derail previously on-topic threads. This is not a recent
phenomenon; a sample from any month in the last few years reveals the
same pattern. The result is that rec.games.frp.misc is rendered
unreadable to numerous people who would like to use it for its
chartered purpose.

To help those who would prefer a higher signal-to-noise ratio, we
propose rec.games.frp.moderated. Our proposal is not an attempt to
moderate or replace rec.games.frp.misc. The rec.games.frp.moderated
newsgroup will offer an alternative for those whose only current
option is to leave.

CHARTER: rec.games.frp.moderated

rec.games.frp.moderated is a moderated newsgroup for discussion of
human-moderated "tabletop" or "pen & paper" role-playing games.
"Computer role-playing games", which involve play against the software
itself without a human moderator, are covered in the
rec.games.computer hierarchy. The purpose of rec.games.frp.moderated
includes discussion of role-play gaming in general and the discussion
of those specific role-playing systems and topics that do not have
their own newsgroup.

Typical examples of appropriate topics:

1. Discussion of a recently released or revised tabletop role-
   playing game.
2. Discussion of a popular or obscure tabletop role-playing
   game (e.g. Star Wars, Tales From the Floating Vagabond).
3. Discussion of a specific role-playing setting or scenario
   (e.g. Forgotten Realms, the Complete Masks of Nyarlathotep).
4. Discussion of techniques used to enhance the role-playing
   experience (e.g. how to encourage cooperation among rivals,
   dealing with problematic players).

Typical examples of inappropriate topics:

1. Discussion of computer adventure games where the interaction
   or conflict is not moderated by human beings, but by scripted
   activities or algorithms (e.g. Torment, Baldur's Gate).
2. Discussion of real-world controversies (e.g. religion, economics,
   law), unless the discussion centers materially on their
   applicability to a role-playing game or setting.
3. Announcements of non-relevant Web pages or services.

Typical examples of articles that may be rejected regardless of
their topic:

1. Articles which aren't primarily text in a human-readable standard
   alphabet (e.g. large binaries, HTML). Appending a digital
   signature (e.g. a PGP signature) is acceptable, but posting
   encryption keys in their entirety is not.
2. Harassing or personally abusive articles (i.e. articles intended
   not to further the discussion, but merely to denigrate or vilify
   another person).
3. "Spam" (e.g. excessively cross-posted articles, articles posted
   as separate copies to many newsgroups, duplicate/rapidly
   reposted messages, chain letters).
4. Articles containing excessive quoted content, or significantly
   more quoted than new content.
5. Articles that don't comply with the relevant RFCs (e.g. articles
   with no subject, articles that contain security exploits). "Spam-
   blockers" are a special case, and are addressed in the
   Administrative Statement.

Topics pertaining exclusively to specific role-playing systems or
topics should be discussed in newsgroups devoted to those
specific systems or topics, if such newsgroups exist. Discussions
which merely include or expand to include a specific game system or
topic are on-topic in rec.games.frp.moderated.

Cultural meta-discussions are welcome on rec.games.frp.moderated as
long as they are materially relevant to role-play gaming.

Moderation policies:

The newsgroup will be moderated by a moderation team consisting of
three or more moderators (an odd number is preferred, but not
required). One or more of the moderators will be tasked with the
technical administration of the moderation software. The technical
moderator(s) will inform the moderation team of any substantive
changes to the moderation software.

The moderators have their own opinions on many aspects of gaming. They
will participate in the newsgroup as individuals. They will not
moderate their own posts, and when they speak as moderators they will
clearly indicate so. They undertake to distinguish their personal
views from what the charter and moderation policy state, and to
evaluate articles based on the latter rather than the former.

New or replacement moderators will be selected from among
rec.games.frp.moderated volunteers at the discretion of the moderation
team. In addition to a familiarity with the general subject of the
newsgroup, the ideal attributes moderators should have are:

1. Patience.
2. A sense of humor.
3. Good manners.
4. Impartiality.
5. A love for role-playing, gaming, and creativity in general.
6. A reluctance to exclude users and/or topics.
7. The ability to operate the moderation software.

Moderators may be removed by a 2/3 majority of the moderation team, or
may resign of their own volition at any time. If a moderator wants to
retire from the moderation team, they should make a public statement
at least one month prior to retirement so that a replacement moderator
might be found.

A list of trusted users whose articles no longer require human
moderation may be implemented by the moderation team, for those users
who have demonstrated consistent adherence to the Charter. If a
trusted user later attempts to post articles that do not adhere to the
Charter, they may be removed from the trusted list.

Specific users and/or article topics may be flagged for moderator
attention if deemed necessary by the moderation team. Continued
egregious Charter violations may result in an exclusion list of users
and/or article topics being implemented by the moderation team.

The purpose of a trusted list and an exclusion list, if such are
implemented, will not be to penalize or reward any individual. If they
are implemented, their purpose will be to keep moderation and the
effort it requires as minimal as possible while preserving a useful
environment.

The moderators may append footnotes to posted articles, and may modify
article headers as required by the relevant RFCs and the Charter.
Other than appending a footer or modifying headers, the moderators
will not modify the content of a posted article.

Unapproved or accidently approved articles may be cancelled at the
discretion of the moderation team.

Subscribers to rec.games.frp.moderated can appeal the rejection of the
articles they submit by sending e-mail to the moderation team. The
appeal must clearly explain why the author deems the moderation team
decision to reject the article to be in disagreement with the Charter.
The same e-mail address is to be used for questions and complaints
regarding the moderation policy. Further details will be available in
the Administrative Statement.

The current moderation procedures and policies will be described in an
Administrative Statement (AdminFAQ), which will be maintained by the
moderation team. The Charter and AdminFAQ will each be posted to the
group whenever it changes, and at least once per month.

Additionally, first-time posters may be e-mailed a copy of the
newsgroup FAQ.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: rec.games.frp.moderated

Moderator:  Bruce Baugh <bruce-baugh@sff.net>
Moderator:  Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@sff.net>
Moderator:  David Bolack <dbolack@galstar.com>
Moderator:  "Deird'Re M. Brooks" <xenya@teleport.com>
Moderator:  David Crowe <jetman@primenet.com>
Moderator:  James Kiley <tenzil@io.com>
Moderator:  Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@killfile.org>
Administrative contact address: rgfm+req@killfile.org
Article submission address: rgfm+sub@killfile.org

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  instead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at <neilc@wallaby.cc>

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
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  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
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DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < voting@uvv.wallaby.cc >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
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If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

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| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

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======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============

POINTERS

Proponents will post pointers to the following locations:
Each of these also had pointers to the RFD.

Newsgroups:

news.groups
rec.games.frp.advocacy
rec.games.frp.announce (moderated)
rec.games.frp.dnd
rec.games.frp.gurps
rec.games.frp.industry
rec.games.frp.misc
rec.games.frp.storyteller
rec.games.frp.super-heroes

Mailing lists (where one of the proponents moderates a mailing list, it has
been noted):

alarums@lists.accglobal.net
bnw@gamerz.net
deadlands@gamerz.net
deadlands-ot@gamerz.net
dredd@onelist.com
Fading_Suns_Games@onelist.com (moderated by Deirdre Brooks, proponent)
hoe@gamerz.net
lc@gamerz.net
polyhedra@onelist.com  (mod by Brandon Blackmoor, proponent)
rgfm@onelist.com  (mod by Brandon Blackmoor, proponent)
s-a-v-e@egroups.com
timewar@onelist.com

This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Feb  6 1999).
PQ datestamp: 980322

-- 
Voting address: voting@uvv.wallaby.cc

From neilc@wallaby.cc Mon Apr 17 15:40:41 2000
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin <neilc@wallaby.cc>
Reply-To: voting@uvv.wallaby.cc
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.games.frp.announce,rec.games.frp.misc
Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.games.frp.moderated moderated
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <956011255.22112@isc.org>
References: <950710596.22095@isc.org> <951191015.3833@isc.org> <952431135.28290@isc.org> <954839799.24192@isc.org>
Supersedes: <954839799.24192@isc.org>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Expires: 26 Apr 2000 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: rec.games.frp.moderated
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:40:55 GMT
Lines: 358
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:11441 news.groups:353996 rec.games.frp.announce:6111 rec.games.frp.misc:252814

                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               moderated group rec.games.frp.moderated

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
rec.games.frp.moderated	Role-playing game discussion. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 25 Apr 2000.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Mark Arsenault <goldrushg@aol.com>
Proponent: Bruce Baugh <bruce-baugh@sff.net>
Proponent: Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@sff.net>
Proponent: David Bolack <dbolack@galstar.com>
Proponent: Deird'Re M. Brooks <xenya@teleport.com>
Proponent: David Crowe <jetman@primenet.com>
Proponent: Chris Halliday <otherchris@erols.com>
Proponent: Mark Hughes <kamikaze@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu>
Proponent: James Kiley <tenzil@io.com>
Proponent: Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@killfile.org>
Proponent: Alexander Williams <thantos@gw.total-web.net>
Votetaker: Neil Crellin <neilc@wallaby.cc>

RATIONALE: rec.games.frp.moderated

For the calendar year 1999, the traffic in rec.games.frp.misc averaged
145 articles posted per day (data courtesy of deja.com).

Jan 1999     4369
Feb 1999     4498
Mar 1999     5016
Apr 1999     6209
May 1999     4821
Jun 1999     3955
Jul 1999     2488
Aug 1999     4338
Sep 1999     5074
Oct 1999     5670
Nov 1999     3764
Dec 1999     2866

Total/yr.:  53068
Average/mo.: 4422
Average/day:  145

Of this number, less than 35% bear any relevance to the discussion of
role-playing and role-playing games as outlined in the Charter. This
estimate is based on threads posted to rec.games.frp.misc during the
first two weeks of January, 2000:

Threads to which articles were posted to rec.games.frp.misc between
1.Jan.2000 to 13.Jan.2000, inclusive: 115

On-topic threads:                      88
Off-topic threads:                     27
On-topic articles:                   1118
Off-topic articles:                  2039
% of off-topic articles:               65%

The rest consist primarily of arguments about highly contentious but
entirely off-topic subjects, ranging from religion and atheism to
economic theory, combined with a generous helping of personal attacks,
often in the form of an entire series of recursively quoted articles
with a single-word profanity or insult attached. These diversions
often derail previously on-topic threads. This is not a recent
phenomenon; a sample from any month in the last few years reveals the
same pattern. The result is that rec.games.frp.misc is rendered
unreadable to numerous people who would like to use it for its
chartered purpose.

To help those who would prefer a higher signal-to-noise ratio, we
propose rec.games.frp.moderated. Our proposal is not an attempt to
moderate or replace rec.games.frp.misc. The rec.games.frp.moderated
newsgroup will offer an alternative for those whose only current
option is to leave.

CHARTER: rec.games.frp.moderated

rec.games.frp.moderated is a moderated newsgroup for discussion of
human-moderated "tabletop" or "pen & paper" role-playing games.
"Computer role-playing games", which involve play against the software
itself without a human moderator, are covered in the
rec.games.computer hierarchy. The purpose of rec.games.frp.moderated
includes discussion of role-play gaming in general and the discussion
of those specific role-playing systems and topics that do not have
their own newsgroup.

Typical examples of appropriate topics:

1. Discussion of a recently released or revised tabletop role-
   playing game.
2. Discussion of a popular or obscure tabletop role-playing
   game (e.g. Star Wars, Tales From the Floating Vagabond).
3. Discussion of a specific role-playing setting or scenario
   (e.g. Forgotten Realms, the Complete Masks of Nyarlathotep).
4. Discussion of techniques used to enhance the role-playing
   experience (e.g. how to encourage cooperation among rivals,
   dealing with problematic players).

Typical examples of inappropriate topics:

1. Discussion of computer adventure games where the interaction
   or conflict is not moderated by human beings, but by scripted
   activities or algorithms (e.g. Torment, Baldur's Gate).
2. Discussion of real-world controversies (e.g. religion, economics,
   law), unless the discussion centers materially on their
   applicability to a role-playing game or setting.
3. Announcements of non-relevant Web pages or services.

Typical examples of articles that may be rejected regardless of
their topic:

1. Articles which aren't primarily text in a human-readable standard
   alphabet (e.g. large binaries, HTML). Appending a digital
   signature (e.g. a PGP signature) is acceptable, but posting
   encryption keys in their entirety is not.
2. Harassing or personally abusive articles (i.e. articles intended
   not to further the discussion, but merely to denigrate or vilify
   another person).
3. "Spam" (e.g. excessively cross-posted articles, articles posted
   as separate copies to many newsgroups, duplicate/rapidly
   reposted messages, chain letters).
4. Articles containing excessive quoted content, or significantly
   more quoted than new content.
5. Articles that don't comply with the relevant RFCs (e.g. articles
   with no subject, articles that contain security exploits). "Spam-
   blockers" are a special case, and are addressed in the
   Administrative Statement.

Topics pertaining exclusively to specific role-playing systems or
topics should be discussed in newsgroups devoted to those
specific systems or topics, if such newsgroups exist. Discussions
which merely include or expand to include a specific game system or
topic are on-topic in rec.games.frp.moderated.

Cultural meta-discussions are welcome on rec.games.frp.moderated as
long as they are materially relevant to role-play gaming.

Moderation policies:

The newsgroup will be moderated by a moderation team consisting of
three or more moderators (an odd number is preferred, but not
required). One or more of the moderators will be tasked with the
technical administration of the moderation software. The technical
moderator(s) will inform the moderation team of any substantive
changes to the moderation software.

The moderators have their own opinions on many aspects of gaming. They
will participate in the newsgroup as individuals. They will not
moderate their own posts, and when they speak as moderators they will
clearly indicate so. They undertake to distinguish their personal
views from what the charter and moderation policy state, and to
evaluate articles based on the latter rather than the former.

New or replacement moderators will be selected from among
rec.games.frp.moderated volunteers at the discretion of the moderation
team. In addition to a familiarity with the general subject of the
newsgroup, the ideal attributes moderators should have are:

1. Patience.
2. A sense of humor.
3. Good manners.
4. Impartiality.
5. A love for role-playing, gaming, and creativity in general.
6. A reluctance to exclude users and/or topics.
7. The ability to operate the moderation software.

Moderators may be removed by a 2/3 majority of the moderation team, or
may resign of their own volition at any time. If a moderator wants to
retire from the moderation team, they should make a public statement
at least one month prior to retirement so that a replacement moderator
might be found.

A list of trusted users whose articles no longer require human
moderation may be implemented by the moderation team, for those users
who have demonstrated consistent adherence to the Charter. If a
trusted user later attempts to post articles that do not adhere to the
Charter, they may be removed from the trusted list.

Specific users and/or article topics may be flagged for moderator
attention if deemed necessary by the moderation team. Continued
egregious Charter violations may result in an exclusion list of users
and/or article topics being implemented by the moderation team.

The purpose of a trusted list and an exclusion list, if such are
implemented, will not be to penalize or reward any individual. If they
are implemented, their purpose will be to keep moderation and the
effort it requires as minimal as possible while preserving a useful
environment.

The moderators may append footnotes to posted articles, and may modify
article headers as required by the relevant RFCs and the Charter.
Other than appending a footer or modifying headers, the moderators
will not modify the content of a posted article.

Unapproved or accidently approved articles may be cancelled at the
discretion of the moderation team.

Subscribers to rec.games.frp.moderated can appeal the rejection of the
articles they submit by sending e-mail to the moderation team. The
appeal must clearly explain why the author deems the moderation team
decision to reject the article to be in disagreement with the Charter.
The same e-mail address is to be used for questions and complaints
regarding the moderation policy. Further details will be available in
the Administrative Statement.

The current moderation procedures and policies will be described in an
Administrative Statement (AdminFAQ), which will be maintained by the
moderation team. The Charter and AdminFAQ will each be posted to the
group whenever it changes, and at least once per month.

Additionally, first-time posters may be e-mailed a copy of the
newsgroup FAQ.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: rec.games.frp.moderated

Moderator:  Bruce Baugh <bruce-baugh@sff.net>
Moderator:  Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@sff.net>
Moderator:  David Bolack <dbolack@galstar.com>
Moderator:  "Deird'Re M. Brooks" <xenya@teleport.com>
Moderator:  David Crowe <jetman@primenet.com>
Moderator:  James Kiley <tenzil@io.com>
Moderator:  Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@killfile.org>
Administrative contact address: rgfm+req@killfile.org
Article submission address: rgfm+sub@killfile.org

END MODERATOR INFO.

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news.groups
rec.games.frp.advocacy
rec.games.frp.announce (moderated)
rec.games.frp.dnd
rec.games.frp.gurps
rec.games.frp.industry
rec.games.frp.misc
rec.games.frp.storyteller
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bnw@gamerz.net
deadlands@gamerz.net
deadlands-ot@gamerz.net
dredd@onelist.com
Fading_Suns_Games@onelist.com (moderated by Deirdre Brooks, proponent)
hoe@gamerz.net
lc@gamerz.net
polyhedra@onelist.com  (mod by Brandon Blackmoor, proponent)
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gentloser@remove.btinternet.com                                  Dave Crowhurst

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From neilc@wallaby.cc Thu Apr 27 23:55:39 2000
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin <neilc@wallaby.cc>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.games.frp.announce,rec.games.frp.misc
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                                RESULT
        moderated group rec.games.frp.moderated passes 205:71

There were 205 YES votes and 71 NO votes, for a total of 276 valid
votes.  There were 11 abstentions and 9 invalid ballots.

For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid
(YES and NO) votes.  There must also be at least 100 more YES votes
than NO votes.

A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly
thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
rec.games.frp.moderated	Role-playing game discussion. (Moderated)

The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 25 Apr 2000.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Mark Arsenault <goldrushg@aol.com>
Proponent: Bruce Baugh <bruce-baugh@sff.net>
Proponent: Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@sff.net>
Proponent: David Bolack <dbolack@galstar.com>
Proponent: Deird'Re M. Brooks <xenya@teleport.com>
Proponent: David Crowe <jetman@primenet.com>
Proponent: Chris Halliday <otherchris@erols.com>
Proponent: Mark Hughes <kamikaze@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu>
Proponent: James Kiley <tenzil@io.com>
Proponent: Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@killfile.org>
Proponent: Alexander Williams <thantos@gw.total-web.net>
Votetaker: Neil Crellin <neilc@wallaby.cc>

RATIONALE: rec.games.frp.moderated

For the calendar year 1999, the traffic in rec.games.frp.misc averaged
145 articles posted per day (data courtesy of deja.com).

Jan 1999     4369
Feb 1999     4498
Mar 1999     5016
Apr 1999     6209
May 1999     4821
Jun 1999     3955
Jul 1999     2488
Aug 1999     4338
Sep 1999     5074
Oct 1999     5670
Nov 1999     3764
Dec 1999     2866

Total/yr.:  53068
Average/mo.: 4422
Average/day:  145

Of this number, less than 35% bear any relevance to the discussion of
role-playing and role-playing games as outlined in the Charter. This
estimate is based on threads posted to rec.games.frp.misc during the
first two weeks of January, 2000:

Threads to which articles were posted to rec.games.frp.misc between
1.Jan.2000 to 13.Jan.2000, inclusive: 115

On-topic threads:                      88
Off-topic threads:                     27
On-topic articles:                   1118
Off-topic articles:                  2039
% of off-topic articles:               65%

The rest consist primarily of arguments about highly contentious but
entirely off-topic subjects, ranging from religion and atheism to
economic theory, combined with a generous helping of personal attacks,
often in the form of an entire series of recursively quoted articles
with a single-word profanity or insult attached. These diversions
often derail previously on-topic threads. This is not a recent
phenomenon; a sample from any month in the last few years reveals the
same pattern. The result is that rec.games.frp.misc is rendered
unreadable to numerous people who would like to use it for its
chartered purpose.

To help those who would prefer a higher signal-to-noise ratio, we
propose rec.games.frp.moderated. Our proposal is not an attempt to
moderate or replace rec.games.frp.misc. The rec.games.frp.moderated
newsgroup will offer an alternative for those whose only current
option is to leave.

CHARTER: rec.games.frp.moderated

rec.games.frp.moderated is a moderated newsgroup for discussion of
human-moderated "tabletop" or "pen & paper" role-playing games.
"Computer role-playing games", which involve play against the software
itself without a human moderator, are covered in the
rec.games.computer hierarchy. The purpose of rec.games.frp.moderated
includes discussion of role-play gaming in general and the discussion
of those specific role-playing systems and topics that do not have
their own newsgroup.

Typical examples of appropriate topics:

1. Discussion of a recently released or revised tabletop role-
   playing game.
2. Discussion of a popular or obscure tabletop role-playing
   game (e.g. Star Wars, Tales From the Floating Vagabond).
3. Discussion of a specific role-playing setting or scenario
   (e.g. Forgotten Realms, the Complete Masks of Nyarlathotep).
4. Discussion of techniques used to enhance the role-playing
   experience (e.g. how to encourage cooperation among rivals,
   dealing with problematic players).

Typical examples of inappropriate topics:

1. Discussion of computer adventure games where the interaction
   or conflict is not moderated by human beings, but by scripted
   activities or algorithms (e.g. Torment, Baldur's Gate).
2. Discussion of real-world controversies (e.g. religion, economics,
   law), unless the discussion centers materially on their
   applicability to a role-playing game or setting.
3. Announcements of non-relevant Web pages or services.

Typical examples of articles that may be rejected regardless of
their topic:

1. Articles which aren't primarily text in a human-readable standard
   alphabet (e.g. large binaries, HTML). Appending a digital
   signature (e.g. a PGP signature) is acceptable, but posting
   encryption keys in their entirety is not.
2. Harassing or personally abusive articles (i.e. articles intended
   not to further the discussion, but merely to denigrate or vilify
   another person).
3. "Spam" (e.g. excessively cross-posted articles, articles posted
   as separate copies to many newsgroups, duplicate/rapidly
   reposted messages, chain letters).
4. Articles containing excessive quoted content, or significantly
   more quoted than new content.
5. Articles that don't comply with the relevant RFCs (e.g. articles
   with no subject, articles that contain security exploits). "Spam-
   blockers" are a special case, and are addressed in the
   Administrative Statement.

Topics pertaining exclusively to specific role-playing systems or
topics should be discussed in newsgroups devoted to those
specific systems or topics, if such newsgroups exist. Discussions
which merely include or expand to include a specific game system or
topic are on-topic in rec.games.frp.moderated.

Cultural meta-discussions are welcome on rec.games.frp.moderated as
long as they are materially relevant to role-play gaming.

Moderation policies:

The newsgroup will be moderated by a moderation team consisting of
three or more moderators (an odd number is preferred, but not
required). One or more of the moderators will be tasked with the
technical administration of the moderation software. The technical
moderator(s) will inform the moderation team of any substantive
changes to the moderation software.

The moderators have their own opinions on many aspects of gaming. They
will participate in the newsgroup as individuals. They will not
moderate their own posts, and when they speak as moderators they will
clearly indicate so. They undertake to distinguish their personal
views from what the charter and moderation policy state, and to
evaluate articles based on the latter rather than the former.

New or replacement moderators will be selected from among
rec.games.frp.moderated volunteers at the discretion of the moderation
team. In addition to a familiarity with the general subject of the
newsgroup, the ideal attributes moderators should have are:

1. Patience.
2. A sense of humor.
3. Good manners.
4. Impartiality.
5. A love for role-playing, gaming, and creativity in general.
6. A reluctance to exclude users and/or topics.
7. The ability to operate the moderation software.

Moderators may be removed by a 2/3 majority of the moderation team, or
may resign of their own volition at any time. If a moderator wants to
retire from the moderation team, they should make a public statement
at least one month prior to retirement so that a replacement moderator
might be found.

A list of trusted users whose articles no longer require human
moderation may be implemented by the moderation team, for those users
who have demonstrated consistent adherence to the Charter. If a
trusted user later attempts to post articles that do not adhere to the
Charter, they may be removed from the trusted list.

Specific users and/or article topics may be flagged for moderator
attention if deemed necessary by the moderation team. Continued
egregious Charter violations may result in an exclusion list of users
and/or article topics being implemented by the moderation team.

The purpose of a trusted list and an exclusion list, if such are
implemented, will not be to penalize or reward any individual. If they
are implemented, their purpose will be to keep moderation and the
effort it requires as minimal as possible while preserving a useful
environment.

The moderators may append footnotes to posted articles, and may modify
article headers as required by the relevant RFCs and the Charter.
Other than appending a footer or modifying headers, the moderators
will not modify the content of a posted article.

Unapproved or accidently approved articles may be cancelled at the
discretion of the moderation team.

Subscribers to rec.games.frp.moderated can appeal the rejection of the
articles they submit by sending e-mail to the moderation team. The
appeal must clearly explain why the author deems the moderation team
decision to reject the article to be in disagreement with the Charter.
The same e-mail address is to be used for questions and complaints
regarding the moderation policy. Further details will be available in
the Administrative Statement.

The current moderation procedures and policies will be described in an
Administrative Statement (AdminFAQ), which will be maintained by the
moderation team. The Charter and AdminFAQ will each be posted to the
group whenever it changes, and at least once per month.

Additionally, first-time posters may be e-mailed a copy of the
newsgroup FAQ.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: rec.games.frp.moderated

Moderator:  Bruce Baugh <bruce-baugh@sff.net>
Moderator:  Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@sff.net>
Moderator:  David Bolack <dbolack@galstar.com>
Moderator:  "Deird'Re M. Brooks" <xenya@teleport.com>
Moderator:  David Crowe <jetman@primenet.com>
Moderator:  James Kiley <tenzil@io.com>
Moderator:  Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@killfile.org>
Administrative contact address: rgfm+req@killfile.org
Article submission address: rgfm+sub@killfile.org

END MODERATOR INFO.



rec.games.frp.moderated Final Voter list

NOTE:  This is not [to be used as] a mailing list.  The email addresses
are posted only to help verify the interest poll.  Thank you.

Voted YES
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pgrawe [at] tusc.com.au                                         Grawe, Philipp
pjkea1 [at] student.monash.edu.au                                   Phil Keast
toivo [at] ucs.uwa.edu.au                                        Toivo Pedaste
Janice.Wells [at] dsto.defence.gov.au                             Janice Wells
cryan [at] plugged.net.au                                           Chris Ryan
hwcpeng [at] q-net.net.au                                         Robert Wylie
garyjohnson [at] uq.net.au                                        Gary Johnson
arcadia [at] luiz.claudio.nom.br                           Luiz Cludio Duarte
kburdett [at] compusmart.ab.ca                                Kevin M. Burdett
doctor [at] doctor.nl2k.ab.ca                                    Dave Yadallee
cn236 [at] freenet.carleton.ca                                  Scott Delahunt
dalamb [at] cs.queensu.ca                                      David Alex Lamb
travis [at] SEDSystems.ca                                   Shane H. W. Travis
cgoodin [at] sfu.ca                                                Chuk Goodin
prwrean [at] sfu.ca                                             Patricia Wrean
ccamfield [at] sympatico.ca                                     Chris Camfield
CraigWyllie [at] sympatico.ca                                     Craig Wyllie
maliszew [at] sympatico.ca                                   James Maliszewski
ru [at] cls.usask.ca                                               Ru Igarashi
ahackard [at] UVic.CA                                           Andrew Hackard
sheila_davis [at] agilent.com                                     Sheila Davis
djt [at] alderac.com                                             D. J. Trindle
arcadiadm [at] aol.com                                               ArcadiaDM
Kamadaues [at] aol.com                                           Lon Braidwood
LJP1963 [at] aol.com                                         Louis J. Prosperi
ThomWilson [at] aol.com                                          Thomas Wilson
hermit [at] BayView.COM                                        William R. Ward
kimdv [at] best.com                                               Kim DeVaughn
a_blip [at] bigfoot.com                                       P=E5l Are Nordal
bdunphy [at] bigfoot.com                                          Bryan Dunphy
mbraddock [at] bigfoot.com                                    Melissa Braddock
stormwarden [at] bigfoot.com                              Robert Paul Braddock
bdysart [at] network.boxmail.com                                  Brian Dysart
Nick_Brooke [at] btinternet.com                                    Nick Brooke
pdundas [at] btinternet.com                                        Paul Dundas
ecb [at] ComptekAmherst.com                                Eric Christian Berg
102250.1425 [at] compuserve.com                                    SD Anderson
PaulH [at] macbeth.computerbits.com                               Paul Harwood
jcfiala [at] CSSLTD.com                                           John C Fiala
cafe [at] cyber-safari.com                                          Deric Page
jzeitlin [at] cyburban.com                                        Jeff Zeitlin
darious [at] darious.com                                        Allan Seyberth
tellessa [at] deathsdoor.com                                        Troy Baker
sbennie [at] dowco.com                                            Scott Bennie
aardy [at] enteract.com                                      Aardy R. DeVarque
katew [at] enteract.com                                         Kate the Short
julesd [at] erols.com                                             Jules Dubois
otherchris [at] erols.com                              Christopher P. Halliday
sstaten [at] erols.com                                            Scott Staten
david [at] farrar.com                                             David Farrar
phloem [at] fumbling.com                                         Mike Sugimoto
ggainey [at] hiddenmind.com                                       Grant Gainey
kendall [at] his.com                                         Kendall P. Bullen
andy-m-young [at] home.com                                        Andrew Young
dilickjm [at] home.com                                             John Dilick
dpirko [at] home.com                                                Doug Pirko
mikereed28 [at] home.com                                          Michael Reed
adamj [at] shadowrun.html.com                                        Adam Jury
taustin [at] hyperbooks.com                                       Terry Austin
rwpikul [at] idirect.com                                            Rick Pikul
alberich [at] iglou.com                                      Mark Allen Kinney
richard_damon [at] iname.com                                     Richard Damon
nlauerman [at] interaccess.com                               Nicholas Lauerman
agoodall [at] interlog.com                                       Allan Goodall
jeffj [at] io.com                                                Jeff Johnston
rboerger [at] io.com                                               Ron Boerger
tenzil [at] io.com                                                 James Kiley
whytcrow [at] io.com                                            Jennifer Brinn
zephyn [at] io.com                                             Keith E. Peyton
chris [at] kzim.com                                Christopher Robin Zimmerman
hartlage [at] lucent.com                                        David hartlage
marke [at] madbbs.com                                               Mark Engle
edmooring [at] mindspring.com                                       Ed Mooring
etho [at] mindspring.com                                         Eric Thompson
irishspy [at] mindspring.com                                     Anthony Ragan
rickyhunt [at] mindspring.com                                       Ricky Hunt
albertfabio [at] my-Deja.com                                      Albert Fabio
jason [at] myra.com                                             Jason Langlois
simpson [at] netcom.com                                            Bob Simpson
tlo [at] ocsnet.com                                         Trevor L. Obermann
DaveT [at] pixelplanet.com                                         Dave Thomas
nartsegg [at] pobox.com                                       Jonathan Roberts
spam-eater [at] pobox.com                                           Karl Meyer
hwoolsey [at] precisiongraphics.com                               Hank Woolsey
benbrown [at] primenet.com                                           Ben Brown
jetman [at] primenet.com                                           David Crowe
david.weinstein [at] redstorm.com                              David Weinstein
jhart [at] Ridgeway-Sys.com                                            Jo Hart
Rjuliano [at] cfl.rr.com                                           Bob Juliano
rich [at] rtgames.com                                             Rich Shipley
jake [at] sharonandjake.com                                         Jake Baker
schaduw [at] silcom.com                                             Eric Tolle
thompson [at] sirius.com                                      Anthony Thompson
rbaldwin [at] rio.STOPSPAM.com                                  Robert Baldwin
xenya [at] teleport.com                                      Deirdre M. Brooks
nsmith [at] micro.ti.com                                            Neal Smith
spots [at] tigrina.com                                         Andrea L. Adams
richard [at] tga.u-net.com                                     Richard Gadsden
pimentel [at] ultranet.com                                          J Pimentel
jagman [at] unforgettable.com                              Jonathan A. Gillett
kelly_pedersen2 [at] yahoo.com                             Kelly Ross Pedersen
sierra_tigris [at] yahoo.com                                      Marc Lombart
corwin [at] amber.kn-bremen.de                           Christian Schlittchen
list-votes [at] dream.kn-bremen.de                            Martin Schr"oder
abernert [at] mpipks-dresden.mpg.de                          Alexander Bernert
torex [at] kholdan.snafu.de                                        Tobias Erle
clmeier [at] lili.uni-bielefeld.de                               Clemens Meier
ralf [at] fb1.uni-siegen.de                                     Ralf Schemmann
jens [at] vdheide.de                                          Jens Vonderheide
bouvin [at] daimi.au.dk                                      Niels Olof Bouvin
peteralf [at] fabel.dk                                         Peter Alfredsen
peter [at] knutsen.dk                                            Peter Knutsen
ral [at] alumni.caltech.edu                                           R LIghty
dsr [at] mail.lns.cornell.edu                                        Dan Riley
eacole [at] amber.emporia.edu                                 Elizabeth A Cole
behrends [at] cse.msu.edu                                      Reimer Behrends
mcmahon [at] cs.niu.edu                                           Kurt McMahon
dhenry [at] plains.NoDak.edu                                    David R. Henry
watters.10 [at] osu.edu                                        Coyt D. Watters
rra [at] stanford.edu                                             Russ Allbery
rick [at] bcm.tmc.edu                                        Richard H. Miller
secabeen [at] midway.uchicago.edu                                   Ted Cabeen
prawn [at] UDel.Edu                                             Preston Becker
kamikaze [at] kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu                                 Mark Hughes
rbarrett [at] dept.english.upenn.edu                            Robert Barrett
jeffford [at] cs.utexas.edu                                          Jeff Ford
ouroboros [at] mail.utexas.edu                                  Richard Persky
rrabke [at] mail.utexas.edu                                     Raymond Rabke+
ejk4e [at] unix.mail.virginia.edu                              Edward Kilsdonk
msulliva [at] wso.williams.edu                    Michael "aetherson" Sullivan
rljohnson2 [at] students.wisc.edu                               Robert Johnson
jivars [at] ra.abo.fi                                                Jon Ivars
kristian.liimatainen [at] helsinki.fi                        Lauri Liimatainen
darkelf [at] cc.jyu.fi                                           Heli Kinnunen
aarola [at] unity.lnet.lut.fi                                      Antti Arola
lgardner [at] mail.student.oulu.fi                               Lauri Gardner
myles [at] irls3101.ck.cit.alcatel.fr                           Myles Corcoran
jfbaston [at] club-internet.fr                                 Jean-Michel GOT
ognopi [at] mail.dotcom.fr                                    Frederic Merizen
Charlie.CTR.Armstrong [at] tc.faa.gov                        Charlie Armstrong
porter.clark [at] msfc.nasa.gov                                J. Porter Clark
maxl [at] dsnet.it                                     Massimiliano Lambertini
doc [at] america.net                                                 Rob Wynne
epk [at] bellatlantic.net                                       Ellen P. Kiley
lighton [at] monet.bestweb.net                                   Kevin Lighton
robbiew [at] gemini.c-com.net                              Robbie Westmoreland
baloosj [at] crosswinds.net                                  Staffan Johansson
highway [at] cstone.net                                   SEAN MICHAEL WHIPKEY
rgfm-vote [at] newton.digitalspace.net                           Philip Newton
billllll [at] earthlink.net                                       Bill Dowling
fortran [at] earthlink.net                                       Edward Franks
karlik1 [at] earthlink.net                                    Carlton Anderson
planetcomics [at] earthlink.net                                 g. m. scannell
bret_smith [at] eli.net                                             Bret Smith
guymc [at] evansville.net                                         Guy McLimore
jiberish [at] flash.net                                               Jim Roof
izzylobo [at] frontiernet.net                                  Scott A. Taylor
zahn [at] frontiernet.net                                      Spencer E. Hart
baird [at] gate.net                                             Baird Stafford
removethis [at] gmx.net                                                   ras2
rdl [at] ican.net                                                Robin D. Laws
mtr [at] igs.net                                            Michael T. Richter
dlpulver [at] kos.net                                          David L. Pulver
paulkelly [at] mcb.net                                                    Paul
kholec [at] atl.mediaone.net                                         Kim Holec
sekullbe [at] mediaone.net                                      Scott Kullberg
fsronce [at] myriad.net                                           Frank Sronce
kneecap [at] netnet.net                                            Neal Cappel
AWDSR [at] Netscape.Net                             Alexandre Walkling-Ribeiro
bkahler [at] netscape.net                                        Flex Mentallo
gardener [at] mail.ocis.net                                           A Hughes
MWoodhouse [at] qai.net                                         W.M. Woodhouse
jrj [at] Radix.Net                                           Joseph R. Justice
emma [at] rpg.net                                         Emma Kolstad Antunes
bblackmoor [at] sff.net                                      Brandon Blackmoor
bruce-baugh [at] sff.net                                           Bruce Baugh
astarte [at] sover.net                                       Siobhan Perricone
hawthorn [at] sover.net                                     Frank J. Perricone
cecilia [at] tcinternet.net                                    Jennifer Arnott
sos [at] vnet.net                                           Steffan O'Sullivan
r.vanette [at] pink.nl                                     Robert-Jan van Ette
erik [at] flits102-126.flits.rug.nl                             Erik Warmelink
jaj39 [at] student.canterbury.ac.nz                               Alan Jackson
faulds [at] es.co.nz                                      Stuart Brodie Faulds
vizi [at] ihug.co.nz                                        Dillon Shiel Burke
rmarsh [at] xtra.co.nz                                    R. G. 'Stumpy' Marsh
kemlyn1 [at] paradise.net.nz                                  Martin Brabander
John_David_Galt [at] acm.org                                   John David Galt
darkskyz [at] cyberspace.org                                     Tomer Brisker
LUCEJR [at] Eisner.DECUS.Org                                      Charlie Luce
dvandom [at] haven.eyrie.org                                  Dave Van Domelen
david.allan [at] finch.org                                   David Allan Finch
tskirvin [at] killfile.org                                         Tim Skirvin
d4jonas [at] dtek.chalmers.se                                   Jonas Steverud
md4krist [at] mdstud.chalmers.se                         Kristofer Johannisson
corps [at] acc.umu.se                                                Ola Agren
112804 [at] soas.ac.uk                                           Garett Lepper
ketil [at] argonet.co.uk                                          Kevin Cowley
c.short1 [at] cableinet.co.uk                                      Chris Short
af [at] contract.co.uk                                            Alan Fleming
avatar [at] arkane.demon.co.uk                            Alistair J. R. Young
Harlequin [at] ishtari.demon.co.uk                              Richard Salmon
anna [at] moglit.demon.co.uk                              Anna Frances Simpson
timpart [at] perdix.demon.co.uk                              Timothy Partridge
edward [at] ulape.org.uk                                           Edward King

Voted NO
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knight [at] ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au                                    Glenn Butcher
zeena [at] netcom.ca                                                     Zeena
jo.mason [at] utoronto.ca                                             Jo Mason
j_lance [at] allison-fisher.com                                Jeremy K. Lance
ErolB1 [at] aol.com                                            Erol K. Bayburt
Psychohist [at] aol.com                                          Warren J. Dew
triad3204 [at] aol.com                                            Justin Bacon
edel [at] best.com                                                   Nate Edel
stainles [at] bga.com                                             Dwight Brown
patc [at] Censoft.com                                         Patrick S. Clark
jmsaul [at] ctconsultancy.com                                   Joseph M. Saul
craigo [at] mail.dmtcorp.com                                     Craig O'Brien
mcrip [at] drizzle.com                                          Marvin Crippen
tjmc [at] enteract.com                                                    tjmc
newsw [at] hoboes.com                                           Jerry Stratton
ascendance [at] home.com                                             Robin Lim
gamestuff [at] home.com                                         Jeffrey Borden
aveekdatta [at] hotmail.com                                        Aveek Datta
ivanj [at] hotmail.com                                      Ivan J. Richardson
mister_handy [at] hotmail.com                                       Lou Leakey
slheering [at] hotmail.com                                    Stan Lee Heering
arnej [at] fc.hp.com                                            Arne Jamtgaard
durrell [at] innocence.com                                      Bryant Durrell
michael.harvey [at] intel.com                                   Michael Harvey
pardoz [at] io.com                                                Abd al-Azrad
wiz [at] lart.com                                                   Mike Craig
gleichman [at] mindspring.com                                  Brian Gleichman
gprrspw [at] mindspring.com                                          G.P. Ryan
rainfield [at] mindspring.com                                      Andy Elfway
dagger [at] mnss.com                                            Scott Richards
r5555c [at] email.sps.mot.com                                     ALan Chapman
anarchy [at] netcom.com                                           Chris Taylor
jrustyw [at] ix.netcom.com                                       Rusty Wallace
sleepy [at] os.com                                           Alexander Pennace
janene [at] pobox.com                                          Janene Hourigan
hhermit [at] qni.com                                               Jeffrey May
archer [at] nc.rr.com                                            Chris Goodwin
bmailman [at] sfo.com                                            Brian Mailman
pan [at] syix.com                                                          Pan
jay [at] tangents-sf.com                                              Jay Adan
eduard [at] zloty.tryllian.com                                   E. W. Lohmann
Abhay.Natu [at] wcom.com                                            Abhay Natu
Ekkehard.Uthke [at] gmx.de                                      Ekkehard Uthke
anandc [at] ugcs.caltech.edu                                     Anand Chelian
Thomas_Galen_Ault [at] ir.mt.cs.cmu.edu                               Tom Ault
bjm10 [at] cornell.edu                                        Bryan J. Maloney
nomad [at] gwu.edu                                               Andrew Tellez
cordes [at] gold.chem.hawaii.edu                                   Rick Cordes
jackal [at] alum.mit.edu                                      Philip R. Hammar
neelk [at] alum.mit.edu                               Neelakantan Krishnaswami
kevinmcg [at] sas.upenn.edu                                      Kevin McGuire
jsciv [at] bev.net                                              Joseph Cochran
iggy [at] capital.net                                             John Mangrum
bradds [at] concentric.net                                     Bradd W. Szonye
bard [at] digital-marketplace.net                                         Bard
ellis [at] ftel.net                                                 Rick Ellis
gargoyle [at] intcon.net                                           Paul Romine
cinnamon [at] one.net                                               atholbrose
mmontcha [at] OregonVOS.net                                 Matthew Montchalin
billo [at] Radix.Net                                         William R. Oliver
herveus [at] Radix.Net                                        Michael Houghton
onomog [at] shore.net                                               Rob McHugh
pmacdonald [at] voyager.net                                     Paul MacDonald
dwayne [at] waikato.ac.nz                                     Dwayne Carnachan
scrub [at] clear.net.nz                                                tussock
idiot [at] flat.net.nz                                            Idiot/Savant
rboleyn [at] paradise.net.nz                                     Rupert Boleyn
Jeffrey.A.Cummins.98 [at] Alum.Dartmouth.ORG                      Jeff Cummins
larry [at] smith-house.org                                         Larry Smith
mark [at] lange.demon.co.uk                                         Mark Baker
chriseb [at] ukshells.co.uk                                     Chris Ebenezer

Abstained
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lucfrench [at] aol.com                                              Luc French
sforsell [at] aol.com                                            Scott Forsell
Tom_Gutman [at] compuserve.com                                      Tom Gutman
sjohn [at] io.com                                                 S. John Ross
aahz [at] netcom.com                                                      Aahz
kathy [at] newsreaders.com                                     Kathy I. Morgan
jimrtex [at] pipeline.com                                            Jim Riley
piranha [at] pobox.com                                                 piranha
dkass [at] its.caltech.edu                                          David Kass
evert [at] royal.net                                              Evert Meulie
merlin [at] netlink.co.uk                                      Darren Wyn Rees

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gentloser [at] remove.btinternet.com                            Dave Crowhurst
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dbolack [at] galstar.com                                          David Bolack
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piiwater [at] netcom.com                                           Bryan Harsh
    ! Undeliverable address: User unknown
dganger [at] nortelnetworks.com                                Devin L. Ganger
    ! Undeliverable address: no such user
baby.digit [at] my.face                                         Shitfire Howdy
    ! Undeliverable address: Host not found
jsn [at] ts002d06.per-md.concentric.net                     John S. Novak, III
    ! Undeliverable address: 550 Unable to relay
root [at] utnapishtim.pacbell.net                                 Tom Fiddamen
    ! Ineligible address and Host not found
denebeim [at] deepthot.org                                        Jay Denebeim
    ! Undeliverable address: 554 SMTP service not available
notnlinden [at] its.uct.ac.za                              Nicholas Lindenberg
    ! Undeliverable address: No such user


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